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16 Questions on the (Kennedy) Assassination - A Must Read For All Assassination Buffs
The Academic JFK Assassination Web Site ^ | September 6, 1964 | Bertrand Russell

Posted on 11/27/2001 5:15:48 PM PST by GreatOne

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To: alien2
It started with Pearl Harbor. That was our first major government-sponsored cover-up.

And this knowledge is based on what?

There have been several articles on this recently, which are available on the internet. Hopefully someone will post a link for you. If not, I'll send you some myself by the end of the week.

61 posted on 11/27/2001 8:32:04 PM PST by GreatOne
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Did you ever have an opportunity to discuss this issue with him? I'd be very interested to hear what he had to say (as, I'm sure, would others).
62 posted on 11/27/2001 8:34:34 PM PST by GreatOne
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
For my money it's Dr. Mac's word against Arlen Specter's, and knowing Dr. Mac personally and knowing all that Arlen Specter has done since, I'll put my money with Dr. Mac and say that the neck wound was an entrance wound.

Might just as well toss a coin ;)
63 posted on 11/27/2001 8:35:48 PM PST by general_re
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To: GreatOne
People knew the new route because barricades were up running around the corner near the Library/Book Depository.
65 posted on 11/27/2001 8:41:49 PM PST by PatriotGames
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To: GreatOne
Did you ever have an opportunity to discuss this issue with him? I'd be very interested to hear what he had to say (as, I'm sure, would others).

You know I'm embarrassed to say I don't recall if I did or not. As you can imagine, he was pretty careful about things that he said about this incident, and it just wasn't something that would often come up and it was sort of something that you could just bring up on your own.

I do definitely remember that JAMA did a interview with Dr. Mac and a few others involved sometime in the early 90's. I don't have a reference but it might not be that hard to find. I remember in the JAMA interview that Dr. Mac clearly stated his reluctance to believe the Warren Commision's findings. That much I am very sure of.

66 posted on 11/27/2001 8:45:48 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Russell Scott
Is there evidence the MOB was behind RK's death?
67 posted on 11/27/2001 8:51:17 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: general_re
Good post re: coin toss and fragments. I would say that
  1. They hadn't noticed the back wound. While speculating about fragments etc. they were missing the key piece of information which was the wound in the back. That does make a difference as one thing to remember is that bullets tend to travel in straight lines and you try to match up wounds of exit with wounds of entrance and vice versa
  2. I wasn't aware of the study that you quoted. Don't know if there are any other studies that would tend to refute it.

68 posted on 11/27/2001 8:52:37 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: GreatOne
Cool. It was getting boring around here :)

This came off of Dr. Ken Rahn's site. He has some other good stuff on there. Of course, some of it is there just to show how wacky some of the conspiracists are.

69 posted on 11/27/2001 8:53:23 PM PST by mlo
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To: ladyinred
I had to sit and think a minute back to those days. I honestly don't remember how my friends thought about a "conspiracy", but I know that I didn't buy the official version for a minute. And I was young and stupid in those days.

I know that I read several contemporary newspaper & magazine articles that raised questions about the event. Plus, I think it was Life that showed the pictures and stories of all those people who were "suicided", murdered, etc. Dorothy Kilgalen was one. I always thought she was silly on that TV game show, but she was a pretty smart cookie. As a legitimate journalist, she was getting too close to the truth.

One very strong memory I have of Kennedy is that I hated him almost as much as I do x42. I STILL blame him for setting into motion those events and laws that have weakened our country. After all these years, it is nice to see other people coming to like conclusions. I am finally justified after standing alone in those days. From the perspective of history, Americans are realizing that Kennedy was NOT a "god", and "Camelot" never was.

70 posted on 11/27/2001 8:54:47 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: ladyinred
I had to sit and think a minute back to those days. I honestly don't remember how my friends thought about a "conspiracy", but I know that I didn't buy the official version for a minute. And I was young and stupid in those days.

I know that I read several contemporary newspaper & magazine articles that raised questions about the event. Plus, I think it was Life that showed the pictures and stories of all those people who were "suicided", murdered, etc. Dorothy Kilgalen was one. I always thought she was silly on that TV game show, but she was a pretty smart cookie. As a legitimate journalist, she was getting too close to the truth.

One very strong memory I have of Kennedy is that I hated him almost as much as I do x42. I STILL blame him for setting into motion those events and laws that have weakened our country. After all these years, it is nice to see other people coming to like conclusions. I am finally justified after standing alone in those days. From the perspective of history, Americans are realizing that Kennedy was NOT a "god", and "Camelot" never was.

71 posted on 11/27/2001 8:55:50 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: JudyB1938
Oops. Sorry. Don't know why that double posted.
72 posted on 11/27/2001 8:58:04 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: Judge Parker
What do you think happened to Kennedy's brain, do you think it was just accidentally misplaced?

Surprisingly, considering all we've heard about this, this is not much of a mystery. There is a paper trail on the brain. It turns out that Bobby Kennedy removed it and all the biological samples from the archives.

See here

73 posted on 11/27/2001 9:00:35 PM PST by mlo
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To: GreatOne
Sure, a gunshot from the back causes his head to go backwards - what a bunch of crap?

Great. Then how do you deal with the fact that his head went forwards? Seriously. Look at Zapruder frame 312 (before the shot) and frame 313 (head explodes) and you will see his head is driven forward. This happens in an instant, so the force is considerable. The fall backward by comparison is long and gradual. It is simply him falling back.

74 posted on 11/27/2001 9:04:28 PM PST by mlo
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To: GreatOne
jeez! didn't oliver stone settle all this?
75 posted on 11/27/2001 9:12:35 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: ladyinred
hi ladyinred,

He may have died 38 years ago, but I still care about the truth of how and why he died. Even the house investigation in 1978 concluded there was a conspiracy in his assassination.

The House made its conclusion at the last minute based solely on the acoustic evidence. The acoustic evidence is false. On ALL of the important issues the House agreed with the Warren Commission. They specifically looked into almost every conspiracy claim you've heard or will hear here, and disproved them all.

I don't believe in magic bullets, sorry, and I know the Warren report was a real live coverup done deliberately on the orders of Johnson.

You don't know that since there is no way for you to know that. You may think that. As for magic bullets, nobody believes in magic bullets, not even the Warren Commission. The people that tell you the single bullet theory involves a bullet that does all these magical things in midair, those people are lying to you (and you might rightfully consider why they would do that). The single bullet theory is a simple, straight line trajectory through Kennedy's neck and into Connaly. It is the only explanation consistent with the evidence. That is why both the Warren Commission and the House Committee accepted it.

Many people since HAVE talked, this didn't remain a secret. Unfortunately, there are many who still manage to call anyone who knows we were lied to a nut, keeping the lie alive.

Many people have made up things. That is the problem.

I hope in my lifetime the truth is finally told. It has been, it just needs to be confirmed so those of us who do care can finally say a resounding, "finally, the truth is really 'out there'

And wouldn't it be ironic to wake up in heaven and find out you heard the truth all along, but all these people with agendas had spread so much false information that you rejected it?

76 posted on 11/27/2001 9:14:39 PM PST by mlo
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To: San Jacinto
But he never changed his mind about one thing. The gunshots came from the front. You would think that an emergency room doctor at Parkland Hospital would know gunshot wounds--they see several each and every day.

Except that he wasn't one of the doctor's that treated JFK, he didn't see those wounds, but he wrote a book full of falsehoods many years later.

see here

77 posted on 11/27/2001 9:20:03 PM PST by mlo
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"The President’s route for his drive through Dallas was widely known and was printed in the Dallas Morning News on November 22. At the last minute the Secret Service changed a small part of their plans so that the President left Main Street and turned into Houston and Elm Streets. This alteration took the President past the book depository building from which it is alleged that Oswald shot him. How Oswald is supposed to have known of this change has never been explained. Why was the President’s route changed at the last minute to take him past Oswald’s place of work?"

This is false, and a very old myth. The route wasn't changed. The very route they took was published in both newspapers. One paper had a detailed map, one had a more schematic map, but the route never changed.

78 posted on 11/27/2001 9:24:21 PM PST by mlo
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To: willyboyishere
Thanks for your posts on this thread - very interesting info!
79 posted on 11/27/2001 9:26:18 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: planter
I've checked out the site...

Interesting reading.

If anyone has seen the Zapruder film at real speed you can clearly see that the Secret Serviceman driving Kennedy's car noticably slowed the vehicle just before the head shot [this is no hype, check it out yourself]...once the head shot struck home the car speeds up considerably and away.

Until someone can explain the practical motive behind slowing down a vehicle in the middle of an assasination attempt [I "KNOW" that they are taught to maintain speed at all times, especially when in a small convoy, with vehicles behind...and once anything goes down..the order is to Haul A** and never "slow down"] I will always think something was definately afoot that day in Dealy Plaza.

Seriously...I want to hear a reasonable explanation for this. I am ready to accept the truth. I am no "buff" or minor league theorist...I am simply going off of what I personally saw.

That Limousine almost comes to an abrupt stop...

80 posted on 11/27/2001 9:26:38 PM PST by VaBthang4
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