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To: Criminal Number 18F
Show me someone credible who thinks 800 was shot down d.o.l. Criminal Number 18F The US Government. Why else spend $100M on such an absurd and funny but brutal coverup which merely convinced 2/3 (AvWk poll) of the flying public that it WAS a missile. Bush is as guilty as Clinton. It's common for such middle-managers. Do I win anything? Everything points to an inert missile (mispackaged SM2 prototype) goof by a military contractor if you care to become vaguely familiar with the tragedy on alt.disasters.aviation or twa800@Yahoogroups.com. I hope this helps.
54 posted on 12/01/2001 5:13:48 AM PST by thatstan
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To: thatstan; Criminal Number 18F
Why don't you wait until NTSB releases their findings and then you can pick it apart and submit your theories during the public comment portion of the investigation?

Incidentally, NTSB reports only to Congress so the chances of a coverup are basically nil and none. The White House has no influence on them and if it was an attempted coverup by the Clintonistas, dont't you think the Republican majority Congress (at the time) would be jumping up and down and frothing at the mouth?

55 posted on 12/01/2001 5:34:39 AM PST by SBeck
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To: thatstan
Your sources are:

alt.disasters.aviation

A usenet grope that perfectly illustrates why Usenet is in precipitous decline, or

twa800@Yahoogroups.com

The Yahoo grope that is home to those Yahoos too far out for their peers in ADA. Thanks, but no thanks. You still haven't cited anyone credible, just two places where cranks hang out.

Hmmm... have you taken a course on accident investigation... read a book perhaps? I have about fifty books on air accidents and investigating same. I am writing a book on a closely related subject. I read all the NTSB reports (yeah, even the general aviation ones... actually they are usually the most interesting) and have a bunch of airline ones here, hundreds and hundreds of pages each (not the cheesy little synopsis they put on the web).

The chief investigator of the TWA 800 disaster has some impressive credentials. Thousands of hours as a pilot, advanced degrees, twenty years in the Army. Better credentials than mine (I might have put more years in the service than him, is all; he beats me on flying hours and has better degrees, so far). Against that we've got... the Yahoo TWA 800 crank group.

From the posts here (not necessarily yours, thatstan; this is a portmanteau reply) it's the most massive conspiracy of all recorded history: both political parties are in on it, the five board members (hi-powered politicos who know diddly about aviation, usually) are in on it, the teams of investigators (NTSB *and* FBI) are in on it, the Navy is in on it, and a bunch of retired and former military men that swore to uphold the constitution (as did the FBI, NTSB, etc). are all in on it. SBeck is in on it... well, he went to an aviation school, so he MUST be tainted with the conspiracy! All the professors and students are in on it.

The only people that are not in on it are some reporter who stole a couple pieces of wreckage (this is common, by the way; souvenir hunters turn fearless investigators when they get caught) and that last bastion of faith, hope, and ignorance, Yahoo eGroups.

I would advise everybody who is interested in what befell TWA 800 to (1) get a good grounding in logic, and (2) learn something about aviation, engineering, or even physics. Once upon a time a college-prep high school education took you there but these days it doesn't. If you took one good undergrad course in logical reasoning (ideally taught by a cagey old jesuit) and one course in aviation engineering or safety (Ideally taught by prof Martin at ERAU) you would see why ALL the people who are educated about this stuff are part of the conspiracy against you -- or what the real deal is.

That's all... I gotta run... I'm late for my Bilderberger meeting. Or is Sunday Freemasons? Oh man... where's my day-timer?

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

68 posted on 12/02/2001 2:25:49 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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