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To: barf
"Do I have to explain simple trig to you? Unless you are totally stupid, you saw two returns per sweep. Connect the long spans together and you will note that each set runs parallel with the track of the P3."

No trig required. Here is the data broken down for you:

Data # / X axis / Y axis / Time
1. 22.137 / -7.188 / 1807.75
2. 22.009 / -7.322 / 1811.75
3. 21.265 / -7.943 / 1819.75
4. 21.138 / -8.06 / 1823.75
5. 20.519 / -8.697 / 1831.75
6. 20.393 / -8.831 / 1835.75

I could go on, but you get the picture. 1 and 2 are your first "double return". Note the timing differential. 3 and 4 are the second. Again, note the time. Also note that it takes 12 seconds from 1 to 3. But only 4 between 1 and 2, and 3 and 4. See, no trig required. Just simple math. Now maybe you can explain how a radar sweeping 360 degrees every 12 seconds could identify something as close as your "double returns" with 4 seconds between hits. It ain't going to happen.

By the way, this data comes from that great icon of TWA800 missile conspiracy kooks, the late CMDR Donaldson. It was good enough for him. Apparently, you know better.

311 posted on 12/15/2001 5:13:38 PM PST by Rokke
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To: Rokke
Please don't ask me to knock the dead. I disagreed early on with the Commander and his missile explosion off the nose since no explosion occurred. There are several ways to skin a cat and the Commander picked the wrong one. Though asked to join their group, I declined. I tend to believe that the Commander and his followers were only trying to protect 'their' Navy by blaming terrorists. But terrorists don't use sleds, drones and SM-2 hybrids. No one group, including you and your friends, are totally honest. Right now it is only a propaganda war until someone cracks, hopefully someone like Bernie or Jim. Your coordinates are meaningless to me. The picture tells the real tale. Have a nice day or whatever turns you on.
314 posted on 12/16/2001 9:04:23 AM PST by barf
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To: Rokke
Just a friendly note on your coordinates and their times. You picked the wrong sets to compare. Also, three dimensional data requires x,y and z. You left out a major axis reference. The NTSB moved a block of chaff data by rotating its reference to the receiving antenna and I don't believe any specific data as a result of this. You gave me garbage and I found it funny so don't stop just because it is garbage. Keep pretending to make a point while accomplishing nothing. You can start by explaining why two nodes fell in each 12 second interval rather than only one.
315 posted on 12/16/2001 9:29:42 AM PST by barf
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