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College campuses are a hotbed of ... pro-war fervor?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | Tuesday, November 27, 2001 | Kris Axtman

Posted on 11/26/2001 9:24:10 PM PST by JohnHuang2

AUSTIN - On the steps of the Texas Capitol, dueling demonstrations were under way. One, organized in part by University of Texas students, filled the air with patriotic speeches and songs in support of America's campaign in Afghanistan.

At the other, UT antiwar protesters shouted, "Stop the bombing now. Give peace a chance" - an effort to drown out the competing rally.

But in the end, chants of "USA, USA, USA" carried the day, prevailing by virtue of the throng of young people who turned out on a mid-November day to laud the war effort.

Unlike their peacenik parents, today's college students are expressing a patriotism and a pro-war fervor not seen among young people since World War II. On campuses across America, support for President Bush and the war against terrorism is as high as 85 percent, some surveys say.

Indeed, the antiwar sentiment that tore campuses apart during the Vietnam War is simply not much in evidence - at least not yet.

"I think the majority of students on campus support what the government is doing," says UT senior Jessica Scott, pushing her cowboy hat from her face and surveying the scene outside the Capitol. "But we've grown up in luxury and prosperity and peace, so what do we know?"

The war, in fact, is proving to be something of a crash course in world affairs for today's college students. Unlike their parents, who went through the searing experience of Vietnam and the cold war, this generation has until now been focused mostly on the Internet revolution and the booming job market.

But on Sept. 11, the final destinations of four airplanes seem to have shaken the college set from its political malaise and introduced it to the world.

There are a number of reasons young people have rallied so strongly to the cause - the unprecedented nature of the attack, an unjaded willingness to trust government, and no experience with the horrors of war.

But perhaps a bigger factor is that none is at risk of being conscripted into the military against his or her will.

"The biggest difference [between the generations] is that these kids don't see themselves as draft bait," says Sheldon Steinbach of the American Council on Education in Washington, which represents 1,800 colleges nationwide.

Mr. Steinbach spent the Vietnam years in college avoiding the draft, and remembers clearly the tension on campus. "A significant portion of the student population looked at the Vietnam conflict through the prism of an impending draft notice, which tended to make it far more personal."

That was also a generation battling a wide array of social-justice issues, such as the civil rights movement, the free-speech movement, and women's liberation.

Today's college students have been raised on the fruits of those battles, and their efforts and attention, until now, have been directed elsewhere. Just last year, for example, only 28 percent of college freshmen said they followed politics, according to a survey by the Higher Education Research Institute in Los Angeles. By comparison, 60 percent did in 1966.

At the rally in Austin, UT senior Marc Levin agrees that Sept. 11 was a wake-up call for many of his generation, those who cared more about music than mujahideen. "This snapped us out of it, and now so many more students are focused on politics and the world around them."

Mr. Levin, who helped organize the rally, says the event was not about war-mongering: "It was a patriotic event that helped remember those who lost their lives in the attacks."

His mother, Ellen, drove from Houston to attend the rally, and she remembers how unthinkable it was to flag-wave when she was a student during the 1960s. "My generation was ashamed to be patriotic. It was considered corny," she says. "Things are different now."

So is this war. First and foremost, say students, the attack came on US soil. That gives this war a defined objective and an unquestionable purpose.

"It's about America's fight for freedom," says freshman Jennifer Burnett, handing out mini flags to demonstrators at the Rally for America.

Says fellow flag-pusher, Lizzy Ligou: "Our generation thought nothing like this would ever happen to us. We thought we were the luckiest generation, living through so much peace."

While the young women were raised on peace, they have no qualms about using force to resolve this situation.

"We've grown up watching the US play mediator," says Ms. Burnett. "But after what happened to us, we can't just sit back. We have to take action."

The two were among many students at the rally who acknowledged that they don't understand the situation well enough to judge what the US course of action should be. Thus, they are willing to trust the government implicitly.

Austin Dullnig, co-chairman of the Travis County Green Party and a UT senior, groans in disgust over that response. One of many protesting the rally, he says he is dismayed that innocent Afghans have been killed during US airstrikes.

"This generation has it better off than previous generations, and therefore has become complacent," he says. "They don't question authority."

Scholars agree the Vietnam War reshaped a generation. Sept. 11 will do so as well, they say. The question is: How?

Already, students are filling international-relations classes and teach-ins to bone up on the basics. They are genuinely willing to learn, says Robert Buzzanco, a history professor at the University of Houston and author of "Vietnam and the Transformation of American Life."

He has heard the words "myopic" and "selfish" attached to this generation, but is unwilling to go that far - especially after watching students in action after the terrorist attacks. "This generation just doesn't have those historical touchpoints that their parents' generation did, when bomb drills and World War II stories were a daily thing."

In fact, students today might be better prepared to handle this new kind of global war than previous generations were, he says. The classrooms are more diversely mixed, and the Internet is bringing cultures closer than ever.

But not knowing the horrors of war firsthand also has its drawbacks, says Dr. Buzzanco.

Vietnam brought America the draft, a steady stream of body bags, and war on prime time. Today's wars, such as the Gulf War and this one against terrorism, are largely sterile bombing raids with little ground-troop involvement.

Buzzanco says he heard from students immediately after Sept. 11 who said the images on the screen seemed like a movie. "Today's idea of war is very remote," he says. "I don't think they see it much differently than a movie or video game."

That attitude could change if American casualties begin to mount.

The antiwar protesters in Austin, relentless, are laid out on the ground near the Capitol to demonstrate the loss of life in Afghanistan. "They're taking it to an extreme," says UT senior Jackie Sharfin. "But if my brother gets drafted, I'm going to start acting differently."



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1 posted on 11/26/2001 9:24:10 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
"Unlike their peacenik parents, today's college students are expressing a patriotism and a pro-war fervor not seen among young people since World War II. On campuses across America, support for President Bush and the war against terrorism is as high as 85 percent, some surveys say." Since mommy and daddy are commie libs, then their kids are rebelling against them like they rebelled against their conservative moms and dads during the vietnam era.....Turn about is a sweet thing, aint it!!!!!!!!!!
2 posted on 11/26/2001 9:28:52 PM PST by All-American Medic
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To: All-American Medic
AMEN!
3 posted on 11/26/2001 9:30:21 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
What anti-war protestors can't stand:
4 posted on 11/26/2001 9:36:54 PM PST by arielb
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To: JohnHuang2
Ms. Axtman thinks the campus support will drop once our casualties begin to mount. I wonder what she thinks 6,000 Americans murdered in cold blood on 9-11 were, accident victims?

CSM is one of the better newspapers out there, but you've gotta admire the leftwing presstitutes for persistence if nothing else.

After 9-11, we were supposed to focus on what America did to provoke such hatred. When the country rallied immediately, we were warned about the battle-hardened Taliban who had to be defeated before Ramadan or we'd risk the wrath of the Muslim world. When 5,000 anti-war idiots rallied to protest the war during perfect weather in San Francisco, it was national and international news. But when 150,000 Americans rallied in the rain in support in Miami, it was only local news.

When the Taliban melted like an iceberg in the tropics, and defied the expectations of our most optomistic military planners, it suddenly became something we should have expected because these crafty Afghans defected and changed sides regularly.

And, now, when the most liberal campus in Texas gets a war protest washed away by a wave of supporters, it is merely because our casualties haven't started to mount.

5 posted on 11/26/2001 10:21:47 PM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman
Amen.
6 posted on 11/26/2001 10:23:13 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
As much as I think Rush Limbaugh has gone off in left field and is no longer on the conservative cutting edge, I have to give credit where credit was due. The two people I think most responsible for this wave of patriotism among high school and college students are him and Ronald Reagan. Ron brought sunrise to America, and Rush trumpeted it from the highest mountaintop.

It is these two that finally cracked the post 60's ultra-left pop culture hold over America and brought conservatism to the mainstream masses, finally giving a counterbalance of thoughts and ideas to the American politic where none existed since Goldwater. That seed they sowed is now bearing it's fruit.

7 posted on 11/26/2001 10:36:23 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Free Vulcan
~~BUMP~~
8 posted on 11/26/2001 11:33:55 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: Free Vulcan
Limbaugh? Reagan? Rush & Ronald didn't have jack to do with a rebirth of patriotism amongst high-school and college age people. None of them remember Ronald Reagan, and the time when Rush was topical was before any of them were likely to be politically aware enough to notice. In 1989 when Reagan left office I was in the 4th grade and got more of my lessons about patriotism from G.I. Joe than from political leadership.

Rush hit big in 1994-95, when I was a High School Freshman/Sophmore. I think that the biggest thing in my life at that time was learning to drive, what Rush had to say didn't influence me at all, or even register as more than a blip on my radar.

Patriotism is a hard-to-teach, often self-stimulated emotion. Ask those college boys in Texas what made them feel patriotic and they'll probably give a dozen different answers, none of them having to do with Ronald or Rush.

Both Reagan and Limbaugh were important to the development of conservative though, but they are not models of patriotic inspiration for today's youth.

9 posted on 11/26/2001 11:55:33 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Vigilanteman
Very good commentary.
10 posted on 11/27/2001 1:02:49 AM PST by everclear
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To: christine11; NovemberCharlie; austingirl; austinTparty; basil; DrewsDad; The Bat Lady; CindyDawg...
ping
11 posted on 11/27/2001 1:54:09 AM PST by Gracey
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To: Vigilanteman
You're pleasantly long winded. You pinned the nail on the Donkey Jackasses!!!
12 posted on 11/27/2001 1:56:23 AM PST by Gracey
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To: JohnHuang2
Wish I had stayed in college three more years to have experienced this (or instigate it).
13 posted on 11/27/2001 1:56:24 AM PST by StoneColdGOP
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To: JohnHuang2
At the other, UT antiwar protesters shouted, "Stop the bombing now. Give peace a chance" - an effort to drown out the competing rally.

But in the end, chants of "USA, USA, USA" carried the day, prevailing by virtue of the throng of young people who turned out on a mid-November day to laud the war effort.

This was one of the best moments. I think the orchestra was still playing at the time near the end of the program and the false-peaceniks in the back started getting more vocal. A few folks finally had enough and started chanting "USA, USA" and others joined to drown out the socialists.

It's a shame that the author tried to twist this into a bunch of students who "trust the government implicitly." Maybe they should investigate the motives of the "pacifists" and the influence that the Worldwide Workers Party has on them. There are a few good articles at Contumacy.org (You have to click on the graphic to bring up the PDF file.)

The report from the Rally For America is HERE.

14 posted on 11/27/2001 6:35:29 AM PST by DrewsDad
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To: Zeroisanumber
I agree. Reagan is a non-factor to most Gen-Xers and Rush would only be a motivator to those who got so sick of today's music that they tuned into AM talk radio instead - not likely.

I frankly don't understand why the college generation isn't the selfish anal-retentive navel-gazers that many of their parents are but thank God a great many aren't. Don't forget, it is THEIR age group that is actually engaged in battle over there. I would think they would feel that sacrifice more greatly than the rest of us.

I also think that the attack happening on our own soil has a great deal to do with it. They see their futures in jeopardy if our economy can be wiped out with a few bombs. Implicitly, I think they understand that their lifetimes can be ones spent in building upon our nation's growth or in rebuilding it after years of terror and know it is better to quash this now rather than face the consequences later. They certainly didn't learn patriotism in school. I wonder where they got it from?

15 posted on 11/27/2001 8:27:06 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Tall_Texan
I think the biggest factor in our generation is that we don't like BS at all. Skeptics and cynics.
16 posted on 11/27/2001 2:36:03 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Zeroisanumber
While I really don't remember Reagan, I did start listening to Rush in '91, while I was in the third grade. There's a lot of us graduates from the "Limbaugh Institute," who no longer have minds of mush. Limbaugh and my parents are the only reasons why I'm interested in politics, hence my political science major.
17 posted on 11/27/2001 2:48:09 PM PST by RockyTop4GOP
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To: RockyTop4GOP
This sounds about right. Rushmania started to hit my midwest high school about my sophmore year, which would have been 1990. The kids that got into him would almost certainly never have had much interest in politics without him; they weren't part of the traditionally "politically active" crowd (Greenpeace, Amnesty Intl, etc.) and were more interested in Copenhagen snuff and kegs of MGD until Rush came along.
18 posted on 11/27/2001 3:02:12 PM PST by PianoMan
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To: Gracey
Thanks for the ping!
19 posted on 11/27/2001 4:30:51 PM PST by Jonx6
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To: Gracey; JohnHuang2
Thanks for the ping, Gracey! As for the article... the biased language is telling:

The biggest difference [between the generations] is that these kids don't see themselves as draft bait

"Draft bait"?

There are a number of reasons young people have rallied so strongly to the cause - the unprecedented nature of the attack, an unjaded willingness to trust government, and no experience with the horrors of war.

Um... maybe they actually think their country is worth fighting for, even if it does mean casualties? As if the second anyone is killed in battle, we'll all turn tail and hide. Pathetic.

Says fellow flag-pusher, Lizzy Ligou...

"Flag-pusher"? A rather pejorative term, no?

20 posted on 11/27/2001 4:42:41 PM PST by austinTparty
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