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The Foreign Policy Analogy (Conservative vs Liberal vs Libertarian)
me | 11/26/01 | me

Posted on 11/26/2001 2:45:19 PM PST by Texaggie79

The Foreign Policy Analogy    

In a poor neighborhood, in some run down projects, a street gang has taken over part of the building to create a crack house. Within this building lives poor families with kids, as well as the family and kids of the gang members.

This gang routinely terrorizes innocent citizens in areas all around the projects. They have been known to even shoot and kill people for money. Their crack house contains homemade chemical equipment to produce the product. This equipment is very dangerous and could cause massive amounts of damage to the entire building if an accident occurred.

We, however live far off from this place and never see it in person. It is not even in our town. Below are the actions that each type of  ideals would take to attempt to solve the problem.

Democrat Liberals

Democrats would send these gang members money, because they know that the mean 'ole capital system has put them in this situation. Giving them money would hopefully take away their motivation to do such things, and everyone can live in harmony.

Green Party Liberals

The Greenies would go over to these projects to tell the gang members how much of a threat they are posing to the environment with their chemicals and equipment. But since this gang is not a large bullying corporation, they would see nothing wrong with their activities except for the way they threaten the environment. They would not want to provoke any conflict because violence is just evil, no matter what.

Harry Browne (or Lew Rockwell) Libertarians and Pat Buchannanites

Since this gang, in no way, threatens them personally, they see no reason to intervene. To go over there and do something would provoke other gang members to hate us and possibly attack us here at our home. Also to attack this gang financially would be wrong as well, because the members might blame us for them not having enough money to feed their kids, and that would create a hatred for us that could result in an attack on us. We want to take Switzerland's example and mind our own business.

Conservatives

Conservatives would go in and root out the gang. Retake the building and give it back to it's original occupants. They would help out they families effected by the gang, but kill the murdering gang members. So what if other gangs and gang members hate us for this, if they threaten or attack us, we will take care of them as well. Sitting back would be the last option on conservatives' list.

 



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Keep in mind this is an analogy to foreign policy, so please refrain from the drug legalization issue. That is not pertinent to this topic.
1 posted on 11/26/2001 2:45:19 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: sirgawain; Cultural Jihad; A Navy Vet; Texasforever
Ping...
2 posted on 11/26/2001 2:46:15 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
A rather poor analogy, if I may say so...

3 posted on 11/26/2001 2:49:42 PM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: tpaine; OWK; tex-oma; MadameAxe
ping
4 posted on 11/26/2001 2:50:09 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Texaggie79
Why didn't this analogy say anything about libertarians wanting to legalize drugs? ;-D
5 posted on 11/26/2001 2:50:16 PM PST by oldvike
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To: oldvike
read my last comment.
6 posted on 11/26/2001 2:53:17 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
read my last comment.

What comment? LOL

8 posted on 11/26/2001 2:59:29 PM PST by oldvike
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To: Texaggie79
Non-Harry Browne Libertarians

Since the gang shoots people and commits other forms of unprovoked violence on others, the residents there are authorized to return force. They are encouraged to be armed, including by gifts of weapons, ammuntion, and training from private charities that really do care about the well-being of children when they can't afford these things without assistance. This tempts some, but not all, of the gang members to go elsewhere in search of a safer working environment.

Furthermore, some members get fed up with the violence and set up watches. If one of the good guys is threatened with deadly physical force by a gang member within sight of a watchman, the members-on-duty kill the gang member, and since the watches move around, this could be anywhere. This takes care of almost all of the gang members that didn't move away at first.

The remaining gang members scale back considerably, and stop assaulting others for fear of being killed. And since business has dropped, the amount of hazardous chemicals they need to support their business subsides considerably, which places the other occupants, and the environment, in much less danger.

9 posted on 11/26/2001 3:04:40 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Texaggie79
INCOMING!
10 posted on 11/26/2001 3:06:03 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: coloradan
HAHA, like the residents could take on the gang. The gang is massive and can take then out easily. It just allows them to survive for now.
11 posted on 11/26/2001 3:06:55 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: oldvike
I don't get it...
12 posted on 11/26/2001 3:07:26 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
Yes, I read your comment about not talking about drugs within this thread. Therefore I jokingly brought up the subject. Sheeshhh, some people can't take a joke.
13 posted on 11/26/2001 3:09:13 PM PST by oldvike
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To: Texaggie79
Liberal/Libertarian both start with L enough said.
14 posted on 11/26/2001 3:10:11 PM PST by vladog
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To: Texaggie79
I suppose it depends on what sorts of arms the foreign charities decide to donate, no? Besides, there might be some friends and relatives of these poor people, who however happen to live in nicer neighborhoods, who would want to go and serve as watchmen over in the bad area of town ... just for fun. I suppose this isn't too far from your "Conservative" viewpoint. Maybe there isn't that much difference - the standard Libertarian "no-first-use of force" principle goes out the window when the other guys assault, rob, and kill. Then, it's open season on the perpetrators and their assistants, as a simple matter of self-defense.
15 posted on 11/26/2001 3:15:12 PM PST by coloradan
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To: Texaggie79
Your participation on threads should be to discuss the issue at hand, the article topic and any discussion relating to that topic. Anything outside of that range can be cause for suspension.
16 posted on 11/26/2001 3:17:56 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Texaggie79
HAHA, like the residents could take on the gang. The gang is massive and can take then out easily. It just allows them to survive for now.

Plus, every member the gang has super powers, including x-ray vision and the strength of twenty men. They do however seem to be weakened by certain types of green meteors that occasionally fall to earth.

17 posted on 11/26/2001 3:18:14 PM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: oldvike
Oh, ok. I was confused because there actually are some people in this forum that are that dumb, and I knew you weren't one.
18 posted on 11/26/2001 3:18:22 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: tpaine
Who are you talking to? This is MY thread I know what the topic is.
19 posted on 11/26/2001 3:19:16 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: coloradan
Notice I used "Harry Browne and Lew Rockwell Libertarians" I know many Libertarian that agree with what we are doing in the Middle East.
20 posted on 11/26/2001 3:20:31 PM PST by Texaggie79
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