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To: sirchtruth
Physicist, let me say that a belief in any religious system or religion has to require "faith" to those claims of the premises. So, today if you have martyrs for a paticular religion they are basing they're belief on faith, but the apostles were claiming to have witnessed actual events taking place and would not have martyred themselves unless those things had actually taken place.

So you're saying that the Apostles had no faith?

79 posted on 11/24/2001 6:50:17 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
So you're saying that the Apostles had no faith?

In a manner of speaking, Yes! They did not have to have faith in something they were witnessing. Jesus said things that happened and spoke of things that were directly related to the OT God that only God could see. The word you're looking for is Understand. According to scripture the apostle did not quite understand in the scheme of things, but surely did after his death and ressurection.

That was as excellent question, I hope I answered it satisfactorily.

98 posted on 11/24/2001 7:09:24 AM PST by sirchtruth
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