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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Gonna bump you here. I've been part timing on these threads, they're amazingly frustrating. Big bump on your statement about how the anti-Potter venom is turning people away from Christianity. I've been on the "wrong" side of these arguements most of my life (started playing D&D in '79). I can honestly say that the constant pounding of the "it's satanic occultism" crowd is what drove me to actually study the occult for a time (had to find out what these people were talking about). And the constant venom these people keep mustering up for how I chose to entertain myself has pushed me to the point where, regardless of my beliefs, I will never call myself Christian again. While I know that you represent the majority and they represent a rather insignificant minority, they're loud and they're ever present and I don't want to share any labels with them. It's bad enough I share the label of American (and now Freeper, and they have caused me to seriously reconsider that on ocassion) with them; but I will not share the label they are most proud of, the one they wave as a rallying banner and brandish as a weapon against the "unbelievers". If I ever convert back I'll be making a new word for it, and I'll borrow a page from L. Ron Hubbard and copyright it so I can sue them if they try to use it.
238 posted on 11/26/2001 2:26:26 PM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
Gonna bump you here. I've been part timing on these threads, they're amazingly frustrating. Big bump on your statement about how the anti-Potter venom is turning people away from Christianity.

I find your concern for the well being of the church of Jesus Christ touching..You said it all..you have no interst in the word of God,in being obedient to God and you pretend concern that this will "turn "people away" no my friend it is the time when the wheat and chaff will be seperated..

I will never call myself Christian again. While I know that you represent the majority and they represent a rather insignificant minority, they're loud and they're ever present and I don't want to share any labels with them. It's bad enough I share the label of American (and now Freeper, and they have caused me to seriously reconsider that on ocassion) with them; but I will not share the label they are most proud of, the one they wave as a rallying banner and brandish as a weapon against the "unbelievers". If I ever convert back I'll be making a new word for it, and I'll borrow a page from L. Ron Hubbard and copyright it so I can sue them if they try to use it.

I trust that those that say they are followers of Jeus Christ understand that the lost have no true concern for the things of God. You have a label that I do not wear..lost...and as for those that have been vocal in their warnings..I believe you are correct we are a minority..but Jesus said that would be so "Many are called but few are choosen" ,when some come to Him crying "Lord ,Lord".He will say "I knew you not"

Now how do I know that? Simple you can not decide which of God's word you choose to accept..if you are His you take Him at His word..all of it.

I expect heathans to like this book..the surprise to me is how few obedient Christians there are

242 posted on 11/26/2001 2:44:18 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: discostu
I can honestly say that the constant pounding of the "it's satanic occultism" crowd is what drove me to actually study the occult for a time (had to find out what these people were talking about).

I have a few questions for you... If you were a Christian at one time... did you read the Bible, or did you just go by what a few 'loud' Christians were saying? As I said in this post, the Bible is very clear about witchcraft and the occult. You can click on those scriptures and see for yourself.

When you called yourself a Christian, did you believe the Bible or not?

246 posted on 11/26/2001 2:53:43 PM PST by incindiary
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To: discostu
Hi discostu;

You know, I guess a post like yours explains exactly why I responded to the Harry Potter threads. I can honestly say that I agree with you.

It DOES turn off people to see such harsh judgemental attitudes from people who profess to speak for who I think is an all knowing, loving, forgiving God.

For some reason they think they have the "right" to judge. I do think Jesus had the right,.. and I think of course that God does. But these people who think they have the priviledges that God gave Jesus,.. or that God himself have,..have sadly mistaken the words of the Bible. God makes no mistake with his words. He says that those who judge will not only be judged as they judge others.. but judged HARSH(er), HARDER than they judge!!

I think God is a God of Compassion, Love, and even Humor. He had the best "imagination" imaginable,.. he imagined and "made" this entire Universe.

I happen to think your words speak volumes. The only thing I would ask (and I ask with all my heart), is that you not hold all Christians accountable for the radical few. I also think your right, the "majority" of Christians do NOT think like these people!!!!

See, I don't think "we" should let "them" force all of us to change our name from "Christians".. they should change theirs to "radical opinionated scarry believers of a faith that doesn't represent me"..... what do ya think? :o)

Sadly, I do totally understand what you said. I know a lot of people feel the same way. Which is/was my point by responding to this thread a others like it from "alleged" Christians ( I say "alleged" because I personally don't feel it represents the way I feel or the majority of Christians either!!).

Btw,..nothing wrong with D & D. I remember what you mentioned regarding the people saying it was evil. "The radicals who don't think like me" tried to pounce on that one too. But I played it with my kids..and it was harmless. Good clean fun!!

You sound to me like one who "gets it" but is still searching somewhat. I think you're on the right track. Your faith is going to be stronger than most,.. because of the trials you have gone through.

I also think like you that so many people "HAVE" been chased away from Christianity by those "judgemental radical" few.

Please,.. I beg you to not let them win. Sometimes I wonder if that type of attitude isn't a wolf in sheeps clothing, if it isn't a source of great evil (under the guise of Christianity). Those who speak like they are the only believers, who actually chase away and repel people from the beauty of Christ, who end up doing more harm than good surely cannot be working for the one true God. I think they are misled and unknowingly are a pawn of evil. Because ANYTHING that takes people further away from the Lord can't be good.

Just MHO

Take care friend. Mary Ann

252 posted on 11/26/2001 3:21:21 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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