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To: goodieD
"Every woman knows that if she were free, she would never think of murdering a child before its birth." -Victoria Woodhull

Well we all know that one isn't true. Women ARE free, and they still think nothing of murdering unborn children. I don't much care for the bit from Susan B blaming men more than women for abortion.. It's time many women started taking responsibility for their own sins.. I've listened to a lot of women in prison who blame their incarceration almost solely on the influence of some man.

I will have to go back and do some re-reading on what offends you. I look at a group like this as a collection of focus, where we may not agree with every single thought but we do agree with the overall focus.

I don't know the particular bit you are referring to, but I would be surprised if "blaming men" is a theme of Susan B.

I do easily accept, as history shows, that our society is male dominated, that men more than women look LASTLY to sex for its reproductive purpose, and to sex for all it's other purposes first. Put these two together, and perhaps that is what the reference you are referring to is about.

[On the other hand, if the tables turned and we lived in a female dominated society, we may have "less sex" and there would be more gay men because of it!! ;-)]

But I think you make an excellent point about "women in prison" using men as their scapegoats. As in all arguments, there are truths on both sides. It's the distortions that we need to be cautious of and I appreciate your read on this.

79 posted on 11/25/2001 8:52:33 AM PST by AgThorn
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To: AgThorn
Trust me, the point being made here is not lost on me. It is good to know that the mothers of feminism were against abortion. However, I've never been a fan of feminists of any ilk. I do not consider women who want equal pay for equal work or want to be treated as human beings necesarily "feminists". I just don't subscribe to the "men have always oppressed women" school of thought.
83 posted on 11/25/2001 1:01:21 PM PST by goodieD
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