[pattycake]

I am just a little concerned here, if anyone has any comments please post them.

[veryconernedamerican]

that article is the biggest piece of horse sh*t i have ever seen, doesn't say anything at all, you should skip wasting our time posting such garbage.

[Sci Fi Guy]

The Legislative Guidebook as currently drafted federalizes local and state land use control, tramples private property rights, discriminates against minority business owners, and impedes economic development..

How?? This is an opinion of what the guidebook will do. I wonder what other opinions might be?

I know that sometimes fundraisers will hype an issue to raise money, If this is hype, that might be why.

The issue is important. Property rights are human rights. I don't seen anything wrong with expressing your concerns to congress. You can tell them to protect your rights and ask them to investigate this issue at the same time.

[philman_36]

And Smart Growth Online
and About Smart Growth

[monkeyshine]

I have no idea what they are talking about. But I am concerned.

[Arthalion]

Hmm, I see an article with a lot of paranoia about a Smart Growth initiative, but without one iota of information about what's actually IN that initiative. For all we know, this thing might prohibit the building of dumps next to schools and homes, and require land developers to install fire hydrants.

[philman_36]

Just a cross reference link for you...
"Smart Growth" is "Agenda 21"

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Al Gore called this Sustainable Growth to counter urban sprawl. It's more akin to backdoor Socialism. It has never worked anywhere it has been tried and it usually has the exact opposite results to it's stated goal. Those that can, move out of the draconian restrictions on what you can do with your own property. Those that can't move, are trapped in the increasing population density it creates, along with higher cost of living, higher pollution, higher crime, higher taxes, etc.

They will try to tell you that if fails because it hasn't been applied properly, but the real reason is that it creates more problems than it solves, mainly because those pushing for it don't understand human nature and or the real sources of the problems they are attempting to solve.

Here's a good review on what is behind it, and what the results have been where it has been emplemented.

[metesky]

Don't get caught in The Planners Web

[D2]

The State of Michigan has been atempting to "streamline" all local zonong ordinances and "master plans" to conform to a "state model".

Read David Horowitz's account of the folks of his parent's generation and their planned utopia. It's coming ever so slowly......tick.....thick....tick

[Ken in Denver]

The Defenders of Property Rights is a very legitimate organization. I have worked as an expert witness for one of its attorneys, and I think a founder of the organization, Roger Marzulla. His wife Nancy is mentioned in the article as a reviewer of the planning document. Roger and Nancy have a law practice in Washington DC. Roger is a former high ranking member of the Reagan Justice Department. They also were formerly with the Mountain States Legal Foundation, a strong advocate of property rights and many other conservative values. If they have serious concerns here, that is a strong indication that the matter is serious.

[FITZ]

Anything done under the Clinton administration was to remove individual rights and get everything under the federal control.

[brityank]

The Guidebook is essentially a collection of model enabling statutes (with commentary) that state legislatures would adopt to authorize planning, land development controls, regulations, procedural processes; everything states and local governments might need for – in the authors' words – "planning and the management of change." The statutes would be new requirements placed on state agencies and local governments to make often-significant changes in their ordinances and policies.

In other words, boilerplate.

The advent of the computer age allowed many great things -- and many nefarious things too. Boilerplate is one of those things that can have either effect. In this case, the watermelons have learned that grass-roots opposition will attend any program they try to invoke via the legislative process, so they focus their sights on the bureaucracies that support the legislators, and give them the innocuous seeming boilerplate to flesh out their proposals.

Since federal acts have more visibility, (relatively), than the various state acts, placing the same or similar boilerplate in the states acts eventually accomplishes the same deed with little or no opposition. The bigger the bureaucracy within the governments, the easier it is to get the insertion. Everyone is overworked and on deadline.

It all boils down to lack of oversight and appropriate monitoring by those we charge with upholding and maintaining our way of life -- the US Congress. Congress has repeatedly shirked it's duties; sold out to the fat-cat contributors of all stripes, and usurped the rights of Citizens all in the pursuit of self-aggrandizement, pork-laden self promotion; and totally ignored the fact that their only purpose is to safeguard all of the Citizens of all of the States, and not just the watermelon lobbyists and self-promoters that abound inside the Beltway.

[verity]

SermonAudio.com is not responsible!

[MadameAxe]

Agenda 21.

[jokar]

Bump for later read.

[Freebird Forever]

Thanks for the information.

Bump

[Mr. K]

HEY PEOPLE! C'mon... This is why we are here at FR- ETERNAL VIGILANCE is the price of Freedom.

The reason the democraps want centralized control and less 'urban sprawl' is because then you only have to win a few counties and you win the national election...

And like Stalin said "Those who cast the votes decide nothing, those who COUNT the votes decide everything..."

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

This article is not BS. And it's certainly not the only aspect of this issue. Click here, read and be concerned

[JudyB1938]

I wish somebody would do a summary of this article along with an analysis in plain English. I'm not sure what I am reading. Thanks