[SierraWasp]

Yes... how well I remember how former Nye County Commissioner Dick Carver was eventually squashed in his battle with the Federal Agents and ultimately in the courts of Admiralty Law by the ugliest Demonicrat of them all, next to Clinton, Clinton & Gore, Inc., Janet Reno.

Wayne Hage, Stewards of the Range and even former Congresswoman Helen Chenowith of ID who eventually married the widower Hage, have been locked in a blood-sucking battle in the Federal Court of Claims with little to show for victory with these despots.

I used to think the old latin phrase... "Illigitimi Non-Carborundum" had some hopeful meaning with our Federal Judicial system. I 1994 I had great hope when Helen was elected in the Congressional landslide that maybe our political system had righted it'self, until the fiasco at OKC was used by CC&G, Inc. to destroy the conservative momentum that had developed.

I talked with my young nephew from NV who didn't like the "Sage Brush Rebellion" because he didn't like ranchers who ran him off from his favorite fishing hole on their land. He wanted the land made public so he could trespass without care or concern. No amount of logical explanation about the ranchers liability from his trespass made any difference since it interfered with his weekend "recreation" that he viewed as a much more important "Constitutional Freedom," as he referred to it, than any rights or responsibilities of said rancher.

He'd also became convinced of that relentless line of B.S. that ranchers are ripping off the people with their undervalued leases of public lands for grazing rights and felt that this long-standing institutionalized practice was to be eliminated in the future for his children and their children. He felt is was wise to exert political pressure "for the good of all!"

He didn't care one whit about the stuggle to survive against the forces of nature our pioneers endured to establish such ranches/farms in unsettled lands and I doubt he even considered the lives and fortunes our founding fathers sacrificed to keep the land free from the totalitarian rule of a king/queen or other oppressive governmental system. He's a "Trust Fund Baby" and totally certain he's right in every respect and a bunch of Red-necked Right Wing Conservative Crazies with their Constitutional rhetoric are ever gonna change his danged mind, so fergeddaboutit!!!

[farmfriend]

I talked with my young nephew from NV who didn't like the "Sage Brush Rebellion" because he didn't like ranchers who ran him off from his favorite fishing hole on their land. He wanted the land made public so he could trespass without care or concern. No amount of logical explanation about the ranchers liability from his trespass made any difference since it interfered with his weekend "recreation" that he viewed as a much more important "Constitutional Freedom," as he referred to it, than any rights or responsibilities of said rancher.

Sounds like something right out of Carry_Okie's book.

[B4Ranch]

It appears that your nephew was educated in public schools under the United Nations guidelines.

[Phil V.]

. He's a "Trust Fund Baby" and totally certain he's right in every respect and a bunch of Red-necked Right Wing Conservative Crazies with their Constitutional rhetoric are ever gonna change his danged mind, so fergeddaboutit!!!

Well, he's right, ya know!

I wasted 18 g*ddamned years milking cows and taking "vacations" helping my uncle round up cattle off'n g'vment leases - yellow jackets! rattle snakes! bumps & bruises - vacation??? bullshiT!

One day I got off the pharm. I went into one of them new-phangled super markets. . . .WOW! . . . Shelves & shelves of milk - beef, pork, eggs up the ol' wazoo! "They shore as hell don't need me tied down seven days a week doin' what I'm doin'", I thought to myself!

Today my call is, "Save the' pharmers! Phederalize pharmers! Phree th' pharmers!!!"

[OregonRancher]

A few facts: When a rancher leases land from the Goberment, he is not leasing the "Land". He is leasing the right to graze his cattle and improve the land for the benefit of the cattle. He has no right to keep others off the land. The reason ranchers get pissed off with "tresspassers" is that most of the time, they do harm to the land, the improvements -read water holes, etc. - and sometimes, the cattle. Most city slickers don't realize that when you open a gate, you need to close it!

[lavaroise]

All I can say, is when the famine will come, those ranchers ain't gona protect the Americans that betrayed them. Bottom line, respect of protection of industries and volunteers of America will be learned the hard way.