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To: OregonRancher
This is real hard for me to comprehend, all land in Texas is privately owned except for a tad here and there. What business does the government have owning state territory? This flies in the face of sovereign states, it's rediculous, how did this happen and why didn't the citizens slap their elected state officals in the face and make them do right?
34 posted on 11/22/2001 6:51:34 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Morning! Now my history is really rusty...as you get older, you know the files are there, it's just that you can't remember where you filed them..... I think that one of the conditions of statehood for NV was all property not privately owned was taken by the government...
35 posted on 11/22/2001 7:00:16 AM PST by OregonRancher
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To: MissAmericanPie
This is real hard for me to comprehend, all land in Texas is privately owned except for a tad here and there. What business does the government have owning state territory? This flies in the face of sovereign states, it's rediculous, how did this happen and why didn't the citizens slap their elected state officals in the face and make them do right?

I know you won't like this answer. Don't like it myself. The North won the war. So what? Well, when they did, the 14th amendment came into being. Before, each state awarded citizenship to members of that state and by virtue of that those members were citizens of the nation.

The 14th amendment made citizenship only at the national level, with residence only at the state level. All rights, privileges and protections flow from citizenship. The mere fact that citizenship is defined at the national level reduce the sovereignty of the states to virtually nothing.

Let me repeat: that one action of taking away state citizenship changed the entire face of America, obsoleted sections of the state and federal constitutions, which, incidently, were not removed from the text thereof, the ommission of which was act of fraud and deceit.

It's been that way since the war, but little was done about it so as to not alarm the population until it was settled into custom and national thought.

The muscle is being flexed now and the only obstacle left is the American people's belief otherwise. But the courts knew, and knows.

Looking at the problem strictly objectively and unemotionally, probably the only way that can be reversed is another war. If you try to use the courts, "judicial notice" will eat your lunch every time.

I suspect that every politician in all offices at state and federal level understands this, but wouldn't dare breathe a word of it. When you make politics a profession it soon becomes filled with craven cowards addicted to the most corrosive substances to the human soul: power and money.

My opinion.

39 posted on 11/22/2001 7:58:20 AM PST by William Terrell
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To: MissAmericanPie
When Texas joined the Union she was allowed to keep her lands. The other states would have turned their lands over to the National govt. The Acts that Congress implemented to get the western lands(beyond the 98th meridian)settled did not allow these lands to be turned over to settlers in large enough acreages. Texas did not make the same mistake and did allow large ranches to be formed.

All of the land problems, such as the one in this article, that are becoming worse and worse can be traced back to these old federal land policies.

70 posted on 11/25/2001 4:50:23 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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