Posted on 11/21/2001 11:54:19 AM PST by shuckmaster
Edited on 05/11/2004 5:33:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) -- Police at the University of Missouri have arrested a student suspected of destroying a Confederate flag in a dorm room.
Dave Sierpina, 18, of Aurora, Ill., was arrested on suspicion of second-degree burglary and property damage.
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you really should READ my posts more carefully, as it is difficult to respond intelligently to BUNKUM!
the obvious answer is YES, if such document was written by a handfull of un-elected aristocrats, un-read & un-heeded by mass of the population (who mostly dispised the wealthy landowners! had we won our war against the damnyankees, the plight of the aristocrats MIGHT have been :slaveless & landless!) AND of NO IMPORT to the cause of freedom. >98% of southrons neither owned, nor wanted to own slaves (or COULD have for that matter, as slaves were $$$$$$$$ and VERY few southrons had the money. the AVERAGE southron service member had GROSS assets of less than $25.00. the aristocrats, with few exceptions, did NOT fight for the CAUSE of southron LIBERTY). the war for southron liberty was, in the main, a PEASANT REVOLT against the damnyankee/wealty classes.
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We didn't poison the water down there during the war did we?
So what was all this fugitive slave act business then?
the damnyankees didn't tell you that in school did they?).
No need to. You guys keep saying it as if it makes slavery OK. It just proves there were brownnosers.
and FEW slaves did escape-over 120 years the estimates are <20K, this from the author of RED OVER BLACK.
20,000 is a lot in a population of 4 million.
you really should READ my posts more carefully, as it is difficult to respond intelligently to BUNKEM!
Bunkem, Danno.
Why didn't you guys just ignore their calls for secession and war and save 600,000 lives?
AND of NO IMPORT to the cause of freedom. >98% of southrons neither owned, nor wanted to own slaves (or COULD have for that matter, as slaves were $$$$$$$$ and VERY few southrons had the money.
So many fought and died for the filthy lucre of so few.
the AVERAGE southron service member had GROSS assets of less than $25.00. the aristocrats, with few exceptions, did NOT fight for the CAUSE of southron LIBERTY). the war for southron liberty was, in the main, a PEASANT REVOLT against the damnyankee/wealty classes.
South Carolina's Declaration of Secession plainly say the cause was slavery.
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, the rich/powerful/politically potent getting SPECIAL FAVORS by government! imagine that! (sarcasm)
just one reason = THEY WANTED LIBERTY, from the filth that came down from the north.
i am reminded of the words of a slave captured after shooting at several damnyankee soldiers. when asked why he as a slave was shooting at the union army, he said "because you bastards are still down here". sums up in a few words why most southrons fought to the bitter end.
Are you still calling the South Carolinians liars when they delared slavery was the reason for secession?
Because Southerners would shoot them themselves if they didn't.
just one reason = THEY WANTED LIBERTY, from the filth that came down from the north.
They didn't want their slavemasters to shoot them.
i am reminded of the words of a slave captured after shooting at several damnyankee soldiers. when asked why he as a slave was shooting at the union army, he said "because you bastards are still down here". sums up in a few words why most southrons fought to the bitter end.
LOL Sounds like a made-up story.
"But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."
Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
But of course this is only more "tripe/nonsense/propaganda/bunk"
sorry, you LOSE!
frankly, i doubt that any of the aristocracy would have been elected, had the CSA won her war for independence. even Jeff Davis was popular in HIS OLD AGE- not during the WBTS.
can you document that there was an election in 1862?
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