Posted on 11/21/2001 11:54:19 AM PST by shuckmaster
Edited on 05/11/2004 5:33:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP) -- Police at the University of Missouri have arrested a student suspected of destroying a Confederate flag in a dorm room.
Dave Sierpina, 18, of Aurora, Ill., was arrested on suspicion of second-degree burglary and property damage.
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no less an expert than General U S Grant said, "had the war been to perpetuate the institution of chattal slavery, i would have offered my sword to the south."
the evil,hatefilled,arrogant damnyankees cared little if at all about the plight of the slaves in the south OR in the north. if the war had been about freeing the slaves, why didn't the damnyankees free THEIRS, until long after the war?
if one wishes to have just one reason for the WBTS (and only the simpleminded want simplistic answers!), let it be this: the south wanted her freedom from the south-hating damnyankees. nothing more, nothing less. FREEDOM.
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for dixie,sw
1.the earth is flat.
2.bin laden is a saint.
3.and/or the moon is made of green cheese.
the FACT that MANY persons are ignorant, stupid,hatefilled,arrogant,racebaiters does NOT make the damnyankee wartime propaganda any less untrue. NOR does the constant shreiking of lies, endlessly repeated,suddenly change those hateful lies into truth!
the causes of the WBTS are MANY; the main one was/is seeking LIBERTY. true then, true now.
for dixie,sw
The only Southerners that I hold in disdain are the slaveowners of 1860 that caused secession, who were a small percentage of the Southern population. They're all dead now.
IMO, secession appears to be a natural political move for both the north and the South. Line up the issues, the South is noticeably more conservative and rightwing than the north.
Well then you haven't looked at the issue very close then. The division in this country is between rural and urban, not North and South. The only reason the Northern states went Dem is because we have bigger cities. As your cities get bigger, your states will swing liberal also.
You guys up north love your gays, abortion, big government, unions, high taxes, gun contol, etc.
Our city dwellers do. Your city dwellers do too.
Now why would you want to be associated with those who don't love the things you do? Just think of the enormous strides in moving a 'progressive' society 'forward' if you weren't emcumbered by Southern values?
They are rural values. Look at the county by county map. If anything the North is more conservative than the South because the South had two swaths going through even rural areas that went for Gore. All of our rural areas went conservative.
If I'm lying then that means you're a Christian now. Welcome home, brother. LOL
Are all the others who are always yelling "hate crime" being truthful?
They must've, because that's what the war was about, keeping slavery.
sorry, what was printed in any of the ordinances of sucession is of little historical import.
Would you say the same about the Declaration of Independence?
what was approved by the conventions could have been "mary had a little lamb" and it would have meant exactly the same thing = we southrons wanted OUT from under the heel of the damnyankee boot.
Well, it was rebellion no matter what. That'll teach you to renege on contracts.
Doesn't matter. It's a liberal Southern invention. Thanks a lot.
It's simple. Without rebellion, there would've been no hate.
They don't want to be associated with us. They want to inflict their way of doing things on us so that we share in their misery. Socialst redistribution and command and control governments made the northeast states the economic hell holes that they are, so they want to screw up life in the south too.
South Carolina's Declaration of Secession says the the preservation of slavery was the reason for secession.
no less an expert than General U S Grant said, "had the war been to perpetuate the institution of chattal slavery, i would have offered my sword to the south."
The North fought to preserve the union.
the evil,hatefilled,arrogant damnyankees cared little if at all about the plight of the slaves in the south OR in the north. if the war had been about freeing the slaves, why didn't the damnyankees free THEIRS, until long after the war?
We were ramping it down for years, the South vowed to perpetuate, big difference.
if one wishes to have just one reason for the WBTS (and only the simpleminded want simplistic answers!), let it be this: the south wanted her freedom from the south-hating damnyankees. nothing more, nothing less. FREEDOM.
You guys never hate, do you? You go breaking contracts and rebelling and there's going to be trouble, no doubt about that. Be smarter next time.
Read South Darolina's Declaration of Secession. It says the reason was the preservation of slavery.
You guys voted Dem 120 years straight. A lot of Roosevelt's new Dealism was possible because of the way you voted and is therefore your fault.
Huh? Come back when you have your facts correct. The South voted Bush. Ga has some Republican representatives to Kongress and some Democratic representatives from urban african Peoples' Democracies like Atlanta and Columbus. Our Senators aren't Hitlary Klinton, UpChuckie Schumer, Teddy Kennedy, etc. We don't have openly homosexual Barney Frank being relected to the Great hall of the People. Just to give a few examples
1980-1860=120
Ga has some Republican representatives to Kongress and some Democratic representatives from urban african Peoples' Democracies like Atlanta and Columbus.
That didn't save us from the New Deal.
Our Senators aren't Hitlary Klinton, UpChuckie Schumer, Teddy Kennedy, etc. We don't have openly homosexual Barney Frank being relected to the Great hall of the People. Just to give a few examples
You've got your share like Wexler and Acorn head.
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