Posted on 11/21/2001 6:50:27 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
Imagine that an organism is sick. Imagine that the sick cells convince the organism that they were healthy, and in fact, the healthy cells are sick. The gullible organism would just get sicker and sicker.
This is the relationship between society and homosexuals today. Gays argue that same-sex behavior is no different than being left-handed. On the other hand, they say heterosexual behavior is not natural, but socially conditioned and “oppressive.” Heterosexual society and family are being ravaged. Our stupid, opportunistic and craven leaders have betrayed us. We don´t even know we are at war.
Let´s decide whom, in fact, is sick.
Let´s look at gay behavior as defined by two gays, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen Ph.D., authors of After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90´s(1989).
In Chapter Six, they outline “ten categories of misbehavior,” drawn from their own experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other gays. Their contention is that the gay lifestyle, not gay sexuality mind you, “is the pits.” They want gays to improve their image by addressing “what is wrong with a lot of gays.” (276)
What follows are some highlights. As you read this, ask yourself if there is another human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself. Ask yourself if we haven´t caught this disease, or at least the sniffles.
• The authors say “a surprisingly high percentage” of pathological liars and con men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a stubborn self-deception about one´s own gayness and its implications.
• They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay morality boils down to “If it feels good, I´ll do it!” If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend´s lover, he´ll do it, justifying it as an act of “sexual freedom” and the friend be damned.
• They say gays suffer from a “narcissistic” personality disorder and they give this clinical description: “pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation.”
• As an example of this narcissism, the authors say “a very sizable proportion of gay men” who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.
• They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such “forbidden” aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.
• They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children.
• Many gays are “single minded sexual predators” fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are “the real queerbashers.” Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love.
• “Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long.” They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The “cheating ratio of ‘married´ gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.”
• Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.
• The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.
Is there any doubt that this behavior is sick? I feel no malice toward gays. I feel the same way about people who have the flu. I want them to get better and I don´t want it to spread.
Unfortunately, even the authors of this book are deceiving themselves. They claim that it is the gay lifestyle and NOT gay sexuality that is “the pits.” Who are they kidding? The two are inseparable.
The authors of this book are public relations experts who believe that “our problem is fundamentally one of bad image with straights.” The book details “a comprehensive public-relations campaign that should go a long way towards sanitizing our very unsanitary image:”
“Desensitization”: flooding straight America with advertising presenting gays in the “least offensive manner possible.”
“Jamming”: Advertising that equates fear of gays with hatred of Jews, Blacks and women.
“Conversion”: Presenting images of gays that look like regular folks. “The image must be the icon of normality.”
They say “it makes no difference that the ads are lies” because “we are using them to…counter negative stereotypes that are every bit as much lies.”
This book was written in 1989 and obviously a campaign similar to this has taken effect. Read what the authors say about it:
“By Conversion, we mean something far more profoundly threatening to the American Way of Life [than subversion] …We mean conversion of the average American´s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media. We mean…to turn their hatred into warm regard whether they like it or not.” (153)
Thus gays want Americans to learn that something they naturally and justifiably regard as sick, is in fact healthy. Thus Americans will be defenseless to resist their importunities whether in parks, barracks, bathrooms or classrooms.
It is a measure of the authors´ cynicism and self-deception that THEY quote psychologist M. Scott Peck, who in People of the Lie characterizes people who suffer from “malignant” narcissism simply as “evil.”
Evil people, Peck says, have “an unshakable will to be right and will not consider the possibility that they are wrong…Their main weapon, interestingly enough is the lie with which they distort reality to look good to themselves, and to confuse others.” (297)
Gays can continue to fool themselves. But let us not. Some of these people are evil. Their behavior is sick. And it´s contagious.
You wish. Gay aesthetical intransigeance is taking an ideological level. If they reach their goals, it's going to be Nazi land America.
Liberals in America are neither on the left, nor on the right, they are just sick and pathetic perverted Nazies.
Well, Nazies are allowed to live a quiet life in America too. Coming to think about it, they're real nice people. They love humanity so much they want what they say is best for it: aryans. Plenty of gay out there would also like to see more gays around.
I'm not saying it's bad or good, you be the judge.
Gee, fag . . . I wouldn't be here if that were true.
Too bad yours wasn't.
No, when ones does a little "In-n-Out" thrusting for the sole purpose of ejaculating semen--for the purpose of producing a child.
Naturally those who are born sterile or are sterile do not fit the category I impose. Stop trying to find little loop holes for your kind...it won't work here.
SR
Christians are bound by the Old Testament laws concerning sexual morality. The dietary restrictions and other aspects of the Judaic Law do not.
You keep forgetting the little sins--stealing, murder, etc.
Actually, I don't as those are givens. What you keep going back to is like chastising me for not mentioning the sky is blue, which is it, or that homosexuality is a sin, which is also is.
A little logic problem here?
No, just discussing a theory.
You are suggesting it is better to treat homosexuality with aprobrium, so that most homosexuals will marry, have children, and pass on their defective genes?
As I just said, it is a theory, i.e. an unproven hypothesis.
And in the same breath, you say that that is "against Nature".
Did I use the quote "against Nature?" Doubtful. I believe that nature is what God expects us to rise above (Didn't you ever see The African Queen?).
You see, I don't for a second believe that all homosexuals are motivated by the same set of factors. Some are taboo breakers, they delve into the perverse simply because it disgusts society (and themselves, on a certain level). This is largely a morality problem although there is a strong sociopathic element present (and sociopaths are largely untreatable). Some societies may punish such behavior as a criminal offense while others will not. In this country, it should be decided at the local level (the Federal gov't having recognized that there is not right to commit sodomy).
Others are psychologically damaged in some way and don't realize that their Same Sex Attraction stems from that damage. These are the folks most successfully treated with reparative therapy.
Now we see the homosexual agenda attempting to create an entirely new breed, if you will, of homosexual, the indoctrinated amoralist. Exposed from early childhood to the false belief that homosexual is normal and shielded from any moral tradition that might protect them, these poor misguided souls will pursue virtually any path to sexual gratification, insuring the homosexual minority a steady supply of recruits. Note that these are the same people who are trying to normalize "intergenerational sex," as they call it, between boys and degenerate men.
This last group we will help by stopping the homosexual agenda.
You are really comparing Christians to homosexuals? Now that's a reach!
Christians have been called that for centuries, and exactly how long have homosexuals been called "gay"? The only reason the term gay was shoved down our throats is to make them seem normal.
Changing the term for a perversion still makes it a perversion. Such as adultry is not an "affair".
No more PC garbage for me...I will speak the truth.
Actually, it wasn't a direct cause, but the rampant homosexuality was a direct product of the worsening social conditions which, overall, did lead to said fall.
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Thanks, kinda what I was thinking...just wanted to ask smarter people....
Thanks, but I already have a religion.
All guilty please raise your hands! Come on, EdReform, ClintNSucks, FormerLib, I see you there in the back! You know you couldn't possibly be wrong. Up with your hands.
Guilty of evil, moi, or just more projection and transference of your own perverted behavior? If you could just take a moment for reflection, where did I ever call you an evil person? Where? It’s OK, you can just raise your hand if you don’t want reply.
What is true, right and good evades you, and no matter how much you justify your filth and degradation, your perversion will never ever be comparable or equal to a normal man/woman relationship, regardless of how much you rationalize it or lie to yourself.
As far as "high-level" discussions go, how can I have one with someone who lives in the gutter?
Repent.
Munchin' chunks, huh? Wish I could say, "enjoy."
About ten years ago I stood deathwatch by the hospital bed of an emaciated and broken man who had the appearance of a denizen of a Nazi concentration camp, as he sweated, gasped, and struggled for breath, fevered and disease-ridden by AIDS.
The partners with whom he had enjoyed many a rousing and stimulating physical sensation were nowhere to be found. Presumably they were out carousing the gay bars and public toilets in search of more physical sensation. Perhaps they were enjoying quiet dinners with their latest known lovers as each dreamed secretly of the excitement of another physical sensation with an anonymous partner.
The body as it approaches death strugggles instinctively, mightily, achingly, painfully, ferociously against the black night of its unconsciousness. Memories of physical pleasure, sensation, and quiet dinners with a lovers are long forgotten. Death comes with raspy shuddering finality as the afflicted flesh breath out its last and looses its last desperate hold on the world. Within twenty minutes the body, though cold, is still covered by droplets of sweat, as if someone had sprinkled the corpse with mist sprayer.
There is nothing good, healthy, wholesome, or praiseworthy about sexual practices that bring a body--owned by God--to such an end.
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