Name this place.
Posted on 11/20/2001 11:55:03 AM PST by freedomcrusader
I have a potential job opportunity in Salt Lake City, Utah, and I was hoping to get insights on living there from folks who have lived there, or are currently living there.
I don't mean to be biased/bigoted, but I've heard negative things about being Christian (especially Catholic) in Mormon Utah.
Any thoughts, insights, cautions, reassurances, etc. are greatly appreciated!
"The LDS religion is no reason to be hateful or disrespectful towards anyone who is a member"
What did I miss? How was lady lawyer being hateful?
"Christains do not believe procreation is to draw down little souls of the ofspring of Gods in there own little universes they earned by keeping all the covenants of a religion"
Again, more hatred. (See post 84). If you don't want to join, then don't. "If it is reason to you and yours to belong to this religion, I am happy for you."
How can you honestly say that you are happy for Mormons when you seem to hate us?
"the Book of Mormon is still to be substantiated even remotely as well as the Bible"
If you're happy for us, then why try to tear our religion apart? Make some sense.
Name this place.
As they sat chatting in Hinckley's office the pope noticed a red phone on the desk. John Paul II asked what red phone was for and President Hinckley explained that it was a direct line to God. The pope asked if he could use the phone as it had been a while since he had actually had a chance to talk directly with God. President Hinckley said no problem as long as the Pope paid five dollars to cover the cost of the call. The pope handed over a crisp five dollar bill and proceeded to have a brief chat with God on the phone.
Later on, President Hinckley happened to be visiting Rome and decided to drop in on the Pope at the Vatican.
As the two chatted, President Hinckley noticed that the Pope also had a red phone on his desk. President Hinckley asked about the phone and was surprised to find out that the Pope also had a direct line to God. John Paul II asked Hinckley if he would like to use the phone to talk to God and Hinckley replied "Yes, thank you" and pulled out a five dollar bill.
The Pope smiled and said "no need to pay, it's a local call."
Besides that, they are pretty standard American stock. No third eye or zombie-like appearance as best I can tell. My next door neighbor is Mormon and he's just a pretty good Joe.
As the title says I took this picture out my back door in the Book Cliffs of Utah.
Only in the West do you have Antlope for neighbors.
Excuse me, you didn't print his complete comment, and you didn't answer his questions. I'm curious if what he says is true.
I live up in Hobble Creek and we have to scare the deer and Elk away from our flowers. Such is life :)
Most of it in SLC.
I'm not LDS.
And have had ZERO problems. It's a nice city.
If the job offer is a good one....SLC is a great place to live.
redrock
What's the point in copying the entire post?
Go back and read their post. There was no question to answer.
People are people, Mormons included and a handful of people don't represent the entire population. If you or someone you know has had bad experiences with lay members, then it's with those lay members, not the Church as a whole. I have had less than neighborly treatment from everybody, why should I expect the average Mormon to be any different?
Your right to speak your mind is acknowledged and respected. I appreciate your comments.
From what I see, there are alot of LDS in Utah, particularly in SLC. The laws of a given area normally reflect the values of the majority. So, that explains the alcohol issue. A person drinks heavier in bars because they choose to. Personal responsibility dictates how much a person drinks, not laws.
Anti-alcohol laws may be unfair to those effected, but they are not uncommon in other areas. I grew up in a "dry" county in Texas.
The Extermination Order (which gave everybody in Missouri the right to kill Mormon men, women and children on sight) was the reason why the Mormons went westward. I am not sure where you were going with that thought, but it needs to be pointed out that many innocent people were killed in mob attacks, such as the Haun's Mill massacre. They are the reason for the migration. It wasn't because people thought they weren't Christians, it was because they wanted the Mormons exterminated. You can say "well, they had a good reason for killing them" and to that I say: No, they didn't. There is never a good reason to kill innocent, defenseless people.
In answer to those who say that non-Mormons are shunned in Utah neighborhoods, I think that that is usually not deliberate. I live in Orem, which is solidly Mormon, full of BYU professors. In my neighborhood "ward," there are only two homes not occupied by Mormons. When my last child graduated from Orem High School last year, the class president and one of the other speakers was not Mormon, but they were obviously very popular, and the Mormon kids seemed to go out of their way to demonstrate their acceptance.
At a previous graduation, one of the speakers used her opportunity at the microphone to slam us, and to complain about kids not being allowed to play in her home. I suspect the reasons had much to do with the attitude of the respective parents. I would not have allowed any of my children to go into a home to play where I knew the parents were hostile to us, our lifestyle, and our beliefs, and had taught their children to parrot the line that "Mormons aren't Christians," using various contrived definitions to prove it.
As for being "clannish," that is probably how it appears, but, at least on my part, it has never been from a desire to exclude anyone, but merely because we are completely involved in planned activities. Also, we don't "coffee klatsch," because we don't drink coffee, and we don't do cocktail parties because we don't drink. My own experience before I went to law school, was that I was raising six children, trying to keep a decent home, and handling at least one fairly time-consuming church job. I wasn't deliberately ignoring my neighbors, I was just thoroughly involved. I can imagine, though, that when someone is living in a neighborhood where most of the families are living a completely different lifestyle, they could feel isolated.
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