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Patrick J. Buchanan: Mideast peace an illusion?
WorldNetDaily ^ | Tuesday, November 20, 2001 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 11/19/2001 9:07:12 PM PST by ouroboros

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To: ouroboros
Was up early this am and caught BBC's world news.
Malaysia, Denmark, even Panama...tightening borders, deporting illegal immigrants by the tens of thousands(Malaysia), winning political victories on platforms of tougher to non-existent immigration policies. And the one thought that kept whirling in my mind was, "When will WE smarten up?"

Why is it so difficult for people to see how so MUCH immigration and so many illegals are overwhelming our nation? What is so scary about bringing things back under control? " Grrrrrrrrr
Thanks for the ping.

21 posted on 11/20/2001 4:17:45 AM PST by SusanUSA
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To: truth_seeker
There IS that phrase again, Amen Corner. Israel is entitled to do as she wishes but we needn't go along with it. The confusion of American interest with Israeli interest is apparent, in Congress, in the Press and perhaps most of all, here at Free Republic. I do support Israel as it is far too late to abandon her, but we must not confuse Israel with South Dakota. She is not the 51st state. If she becomes so bold as to think she'll have her cake and eat it too (and who's to say she isn't already) then she must take some of the responsibility for her actions. Harry Truman helped create Israel by executive fiat, the US has propped her up these 50 years, and now appropriate US policy has to choose between 1 billion people or 15 million. If those 15 million were from South Dakota it would be easy to understand. But they are not. Fifty more miles ? With us at her side ? You've got to be kiddding.
23 posted on 11/20/2001 4:33:55 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: ouroboros
This piece shall earn a Biblical wrath from the lobby.
24 posted on 11/20/2001 4:36:38 AM PST by junta
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To: ouroboros
for the conditions of peace ... no longer exist

this is true. the conditions have not existed since 1 ad. biblical prophecy tells us that peace in the middle east is not going to happen.

25 posted on 11/20/2001 4:47:13 AM PST by mlocher
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To: Patria One
What some people don't seem to get is welfare is welfare, weather it goes to a farmer in SD, or someone living on the westside of Chicago. Where ever gov. sticks it's nose into peoples live things seem to get worse.
26 posted on 11/20/2001 4:48:43 AM PST by Valin
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To: truth_seeker
There is that phrase again "Amen corner." Pat would reward terrorists. He is right on immigration, wrong on this issue.

Congratulations on buying into the mass anti-Buchanan hysteria promoted by any who disagree with him. Your highlighting of this phrase without any sort of supporting context makes you guilty of exactly the same sort of slander liberals are famed for.

Since you seemed to have missed the context: What Buchanan is saying is that the US cannot guarantee peace in the mid-east, because we cannot force Israel into any action, and any threat to do so - a threat backed by the removal of the foreign aid - would be shouted down in Congress. Do you disagree with this analysis, or are you just supersensitive to offending anyone?

I say if Israel must, take another 50 miles as a wider perimeter, as a pre-emptive move for their own security.

Would you guarantee, and permanently post, US troops in the region to support this, thus also guaranteeing the involvement of US troops in evert Arab-Israeli skirmish down the road?

27 posted on 11/20/2001 4:54:20 AM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Patria One
"When Israeli and U.S. policies clash, it is U.S. presidents who back down.

Actually during the 73 war Israeli tanks were wel no their way to damascus when Nixon told them NO (as that could have pushed things into wwIII) they turned around and went back to the golan.

28 posted on 11/20/2001 4:55:08 AM PST by Valin
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To: PRND21; ouroboros
"Has any former candidate fallen so far so fast?"

Guys, HERE'S one for you. Shows what needs to be done. Agrees with Buchanan. Peace and love, George.

30 posted on 11/20/2001 5:07:11 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: sakic
S, Excepting for the first two paragraphs, how does THIS Article Differ from Pat's writing "against" Israel? Peace and love, George.
31 posted on 11/20/2001 5:15:49 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts; Utopia; 11th Earl of Mar; sakic; PRND21; truth_seeker
It would be helpful if you actually read and tried to comprehend the article. If you did not, or cannot, do either, please mention this in your hatchet jobs.
32 posted on 11/20/2001 5:21:36 AM PST by Cacophonous
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To: Valin
How dare you introduce a FACT into a thread which is supposed to feed a generalized mistrust and blame on the Jews for all the world's problems. And how would you expect poor little Pat know about Nixon's actions in 1973 anyway?
33 posted on 11/20/2001 5:22:32 AM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on; dennisw
About this whole "Palestinian State" thing:

After many months of pressure from the US government, Prime Minister Sharon finally agrees to meet with Arafat to discuss the creation of a Palestinian State.

They walk in the room at the same time, and, along with their respective staffs, take their seats on opposite sides of the long, negotiating table.

Arafat speaks first, eager to get started.

"Well, let's get going, time is wasting."

Sharon looks across, and speaks: "It is traditional for us, that before meetings of such importance we tell a story from our History, would that be OK?"

Smuggly, Arafat gives him the "go ahead."

Sharon begins:

"After wondering 40 years in the desert, Moses finally leads his people to the Promised land. He watches them put up their tents on a river side, readying themselves for the long process of settling the area."

"Moses looks at the clean, sparkling water in the river, and thinks that it is time to cleanse his body. He disrobes and enters the cool water, spending the next several minutes washing himself. He finishes and walks out of the water, looking for his clothes; to his utter dismay, he realizes that they are gone, taken from the rock where he left them."

"He looks around and sees nothing other than two Jewish children tending to a small flock of sheep nearby."

"He hides his nakedness behind a rock and shouts at them, asking if they had seen his clothes. The children shout back that they had seen some Palestinian kids take them a few moments earlier."

Arafat jumps up from his seat in anger, shouting at Sharon.

"It's always the same with you, always "blame the Palestinians", they are all lies, even your History is built on lies!"

Red and out of breath from the angry outburst, Arafat shouts at Sharon.

"Lies, all lies! There were no Palestinians back then!"

To which Sharon quietly replies: "OK, then...NOW we can begin the talks."

34 posted on 11/20/2001 5:23:40 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
/;-)

35 posted on 11/20/2001 5:33:25 AM PST by ImpBill
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To: ouroboros
He threw just about everything out there. Doesn't make much sense to me.
36 posted on 11/20/2001 5:37:06 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Nevertheless, today's Palestinians are indiginous to the region while most Israelis are immigrants.
37 posted on 11/20/2001 5:38:33 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Cacophonous
It would be helpful if you actually read and tried to comprehend the article.

Fair enough.

"Israel controls the Senate," said J. William Fulbright, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, in 1973.

First sentence, same stupid obsession. ¡Adiós!

38 posted on 11/20/2001 5:41:26 AM PST by dighton
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
This is strange column. A bundle of contradictions and justifications as to why the United States should screw Israel and bring dishonor to this nation.

Screw Israel and cater to Islamic Arabs. Beautiful!

39 posted on 11/20/2001 5:41:28 AM PST by dennisw
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To: ouroboros
Immigrant Invasions? Pat got into trouble with his last book, A Republic Not An Empire, when he wrote something like, "if things continue, a majority of Americans will not claim Europe as their ancestral home..."

I don't know why Pat would bemoan racial and cultural diversity. Pat's attitude is especially ironic since he is descended from Irish immigrants.

40 posted on 11/20/2001 5:43:20 AM PST by Jeff Smith
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