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Pro-Gun Experts Prove Handguns Are Ineffective Self-Defense Tools(VPC BS ALERT)
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| November 19
| Naomi Seligman
Posted on 11/19/2001 12:49:32 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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Unintended Consequences - I prefer the version from John Ross.
As for Ayoob's comments, his solution isn't banning guns. Knowing what I know about him, his solution is TRAINING.
As for self-defense, that's BS. Most of the time, the gun ain't fired. This is BS, which I expect from VPC.
To: Dan from Michigan
BTW - I bet Ayoob's comments were taking out of context. I know his daughter carries as well, and I believe she used a gun in self defense(Story he told in Lansing).
To: *bang_list
Ping
To: Dan from Michigan
Yeah. I read a report once proving that bumble bees can't fly.
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posted on
11/19/2001 12:54:11 PM PST
by
Gumlegs
To: Dan from Michigan
In fact, in 1998, for every time that a civilian used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 51 people lost their lives in handgun homicides alone.
Of course, for every time someone killed in self defense, there were 100 people who defended their lives with a handgun without needing to kill.
To: Dan from Michigan
How do these people even sleep at night? Have they no consciences?!?
To: phasma proeliator
PING
To: Dan from Michigan
Out run this.........Blam! Blam!..... I think handguns work quite well thank you.
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posted on
11/19/2001 12:57:48 PM PST
by
Cold Heat
To: Dan from Michigan
"In fact, in 1998, for every time that a civilian used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 51 people lost their lives in handgun homicides alone. Yet, there have been an increasing number of news reports that women are a prime target for the gun industry as first-time handgun buyers. Left out of those reports is the fact that in 1999 for every one time a woman used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 120 women were murdered with handguns."
Typical VPC propaganda/distortion. Most instances of firearm useage in self-defense don't result in the death of the committing criminal, as in the vast majority of cases, simple display of a firearm terminates the criminal action. If the incident actually results in discharge of the firearm at the perpetrator, death of the criminal is again a rarity, as wounding is sufficient to terminate the criminal action. DEATH of the perpetrator is EXTREMELY rare.
One wonders why the VPC keeps pushing such transparent propaganda.
To: technochick99
this commie garbage should be given the usual treatment,"trash it"!
To: INSENSITIVE GUY
If handguns are "ineffective", why do so many police carry them?
To: Dan from Michigan
Ok. I'm convinced. No, not to get rid of my guns, but to sign up for that combat pistol course being offered next month. As a woman, I am not convinced that i'm safer if I'm unarmed. Go peddle that garbage someplace else, VPC.
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posted on
11/19/2001 1:00:00 PM PST
by
.38sw
To: Dan from Michigan
In fact, in 1998, for every time that a civilian used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 51 people lost their lives in handgun homicides aloneI have a feeling that if those 51 had weapons, the number would be a lot lower.
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posted on
11/19/2001 1:02:36 PM PST
by
paul51
To: Dan from Michigan
Talk about quoting people out of context! All this proves is that the only tool the anti-gunners have is lies. An Army of Gun Lies
To: technochick99
Have they no consciences?!? LOL. I doubt Josh Sugarmann knows what a conscience is.
To: Dan from Michigan
{1} In fact, in 1998, for every time that a civilian used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 51 people lost their lives in handgun homicides alone.
{2} Left out of those reports is the fact that in 1999 for every one time a woman used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 120 women were murdered with handguns.
DfM, {1} Where are the verifiable stats to back this up?
{2} Where are the stats to back this up also? And, the supposed stats don't seem to include those civilians who by merely having the means of self defense [or not in the criminal's mind{?}] of "civillians" of either sex saved themselves a LOT of grief, if not murder? Typical slanted "statistics" of liars in order to pass laws to control YOU and NOT "guns". How IS Michigan's concealed carry law working out? Peace and love, George.
To: Dan from Michigan
VPC's opinions and all the skewed statistics in the world won't change one simple fact. "The right of the people to posess and bear arms shall not be infringed."
All else is hogwash!
To: Dan from Michigan
In response to the reported spike in handgun sales since the September 11th attacks, the Violence Policy Center (VPC) today released Unintended Consequences: Pro-Handgun Experts Prove That Handguns Are a Dangerous Choice For Self-Defense.They sure are a dangerous choice: DANGEROUS FOR THE PERP.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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posted on
11/19/2001 1:04:59 PM PST
by
Pharmboy
To: .38sw
Definitely take the course - being armed and un-trained is not a good idea. Part of the responsibility in owning/carrying a handgun is knowing how and when to use it (and when not to).
Attitude is a huge part of self-defense and you must be confident in yourself and your firearm so that when the moment arises - if it ever does- you can act without hesitation and without mistake.
To: Dan from Michigan
For example, Massad Ayoob, a legendary firearms instructor and respected pro-gun author has cautioned, "The uninitiated tend to make two kinds of mistakes with firearms... Ayoob's correct. The uninitiated tend to hit their thumbs a lot with hammers, too, but the tool industry has been suppressing that for years...
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