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ABRAHAM LINCOLN: AMERICA’S GREATEST WAR CRIMINAL
Southern Caucus ^ | ? | Ron Holland

Posted on 11/19/2001 6:28:43 AM PST by tberry

ABRAHAM LINCOLN: AMERICA’S GREATEST WAR CRIMINAL

By Ron Holland

from Southern Caucus http://www.southerncaucus.org

Abraham Lincoln should without a doubt be named America’s greatest war criminal. His war of invasion not only killed over 600,000 innocent Americans but it was obvious from his earlier speeches that he had previously advocated the prevalent constitutional right of democratic, state by state secession. Lincoln’s War also effectively overthrew the existing decentralized, limited federal government that had existed and governed well in the US since established by America’s founding fathers. Lincoln bastardized a respected federal government with limited powers into a dictatorial, uncontrollable Washington federal empire.

Because of Lincoln, the former American constitutional republic fell from a dream of liberty and limited government into the nightmare big government we have today without the earlier checks and balances of state sovereignty. After Lincoln, In foreign policy, the US forgot George Washington’s warning about neutrality and we became an aggressive military abroad until today we have troops defending the Washington Empire in over 144 nations around the world.

The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connections as possible. It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances, with any portion of the foreign world.—George Washington

Lincoln shares his war criminal actions with other well know tyrants that waged war on their own people. History shows us that politicians make war against their own citizens even more than against foreign nations. The reasons are often to establish and preserve their power base, as was the case in the Russian Revolution and the Mao Revolution. For others, like Hitler, it was misguided super patriotism and racism that brought death to tens of millions. Sadly, in the case of Abraham Lincoln’s war against the Confederacy and Southern civilians, it was all for money, company profits and government tariff revenues. A simple case of political pay back in return for the Northeastern manufacturing interests that supported the Republican Party and his campaign for the presidency. Early in his career, Abraham Lincoln was an honorable statesman who let election year politics and the special interests supporting his presidential campaign corrupt a once great man. He knew what he was doing was wrong and unconstitutional but succumbed, as in the case of many modern day politicians, to the allure of money, power and ego.

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right - a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit. -- Abraham Lincoln January 12, 1848

This quote above shows Lincoln as a statesman 12 years before he plunged the United States into its most disastrous war. Suffering a death toll so high in death rates as a percentage of total population, his act of carnage ranks with the political genocides of Stalin, Lenin and Mao during their communist revolutions. A death toll so great that it dwarfs the American deaths in all of our many declared and undeclared wars before and since this American holocaust of death and destruction.

From the following quote you can see that later Lincoln radically adjusted his rhetoric to meet the needs and demands of his business establishment supporters and financial supporters.

No state, upon its own mere motion, can lawfully get out of the Union. Plainly, the central idea of secession, is the essence of anarchy. --Abraham Lincoln

Why the complete change in rhetoric and actions? Simple, to preserve high tariffs and corporate profits for the Northeastern business establishment. Lincoln who earlier in his career had obviously favored the right of peaceful secession, provoked a war that killed 600,000 Americans, as a pay back to the eastern manufacturing establishment that bankrolled his presidential campaign. These special interests would have suffered serious financial loss if a low tariff Confederate States of America were allowed to peacefully, democratically and constitutionally secede from the United States in lawful state constitutional conventions of secession which were identical to the ratification conventions when they had joined the Union. Thus the real reasons for the death and destruction of Lincoln’s War were covered up and hidden by historians who continue, even today, to deny the truth and hide the ultimate costs of Lincoln’s American holocaust. While Lincoln’s death toll is small in comparison to total deaths by Mao, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler, there are many similarities between these men. In the Russian Civil War, from 1917 - 1922 around 9 million died under Lenin and we must add another 20 million under Stalin from 1929 to 1939. The Mao communist regime in China killed 44 to 70 million Chinese from 1949 – 1975.

Still the US constitutional republic, as established by our founding fathers, was in effect destroyed by Lincoln’s unconstitutional war just as surely as Mao and Lenin over threw the existing Chinese and Russian governments. The multitude of Lincoln apologists would say that this is just another Confederate argument certainly not accepted by most historians. I might counter that the opinions and books of these "so called" establishment historians who live off my tax dollars through government funding at liberal controlled universities and think tanks are prejudiced towards Lincoln and Washington DC. They are no different from the official government historians in China, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Their job is to lie to the American people and cover up a true and honest account of our history in order to support the government and political system in power.

History shows us that a fair and honest discussion of Lincoln’s wartime actions will not be possible as long as the Washington political establishment remains in power. Since Lincoln, the Washington Empire has reigned supreme and omnipotent and for this reason, establishment historians have never honestly debated the Lincoln war crimes.

Consider this. Was a fair and honest account of Lenin or Stalin written and published during the Soviet Communist regime? Of course not. Could a less than worshipful history of Hitler’s Third Reich have been published until after 1945? No! Even today, with only nominal communist control of China, an honest appraisal of Mao’s revolution and crimes against the Chinese people still is not possible. It is no different today in the United States than it is in Red China or was in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Just as Lenin’s statue could not be toppled in Red Square until after the fall of the Soviet Communist government, or the truth about Hitler couldn’t be told until after defeat of Nazi Germany, it is the same here in the United States. It is my hope that someday, in the not too distant future, a true account of the war crimes of Lincoln will be discussed, debated and even acknowledged. The Lincoln Memorial should be remodeled to show the horrors of "Lincoln the War Criminal" with the opportunity for all to visit Washington and learn how war crimes, genocide and holocaust are not just crimes that foreign politicians commit. Government and political tyranny can and has happened here just like in Germany, China and the Soviet Union and that through education and honest history, it will never happen here again.

In the future, may we have the opportunity to learn about the Nazi holocaust at the United States National Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington and then have the chance to visit the Lincoln War Crimes and American Holocaust Museum a few blocks away. One will state for all the world that NEVER AGAIN will a tyrant or government be allowed to target, exterminate and destroy an ethnic, racial or religious minority. The other will pledge NEVER AGAIN in America will we allow a president or government to make unconstitutional war against Sovereign states or their citizens and then cover up the truth up for over 145 years.

We should start today with an honest appraisal of what Lincoln really did to Dixie, how our black and white innocent noncombatants suffered under his total war policy against civilians. Finally we should address the cost in lives, lost liberty and federal taxes the citizens of the US have had to endure because our limited constitutional republic was destroyed.

Abraham Lincoln was a great man, a smart politician and he could have been an excellent president, had he considered the short-term costs of his high tariff and the long time price every American had to pay for his war of invasion. It is time to stop worshipping Lincoln and educate the public about the war crimes he committed against the citizens of the Southern States so this WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial
KEYWORDS: abelincoln; dixie; dixielist; goebbels; mediawingofthednc; presidents; prozacchewables; wot
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To: rebelsoldier
You are obviously not too bright. My point was that without the civil war, the present population of the South would be 95% black, and you would have the same problems faced by whites in S. Africa.
141 posted on 11/19/2001 1:03:06 PM PST by imperator2
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To: Ditto
"You remind me of Alan Derschowitz demanding that people prove a negative."

That's a low blow - at least keep this civil!   ;o) 

Where in the constitution is it forbidden to drive an airplane into a building? Is that a constitutional right. Where is it forbidden for state governments to lock you up for practicing your religion? Do the states have that right? (I wouldn't want to put that question to the Warren Court, but lets take a shot here anyway.)

The federal Constitution is an agreement that the states would give up certain powers.  Which powers?  Those decribed within the Constitution itself.  It sets the framework for the new government, it's branches and the powers delgated by the states to the new government.  It creates a government limited to those delegated powers, and you'll notice, it's powers are national in scope.  The federal governments powers are specifically enumerated in the Federal Constitution.  But unless it is enumerated it is a power that is retained by the states.  The Constitution is a contract between the people/states and the federal government.

The Bill of Rights was added in response to the requests of many of the states.  And it enumerates the constitutional rights of the people, but it's not an inclusive list of all their rights.  The 9th and 10 take care of that situation. 

So the federal government has the powers enumerated in the Constitution and nothing elseThe states/people have the enumerated rights, AND retain all rights/powers to everything not listed in the federal Constitution. 

So to answer your questions - nowhere, no, 1st Amendment, no. 

142 posted on 11/19/2001 1:12:14 PM PST by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
The 1st only applies on my second question because of the 14th. Without that, (in theory) a state could jail you for your religion unless forbidden by the state constitution. The Mormans had no federal protection in the 1830s.
143 posted on 11/19/2001 1:19:12 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto
Considering that I have had to listen to two months of comparing the Union army and Lincoln to the Confederacy, especially as concerns wartime legal procedures and hearing "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" played at every public event honoring dead Americans killed by militant Islamic terrorists, I have about had my fill of such comparisons. By the way, I used to live in New York and even worked in the World Trade Center as a matter of fact, and never thought once about rebels vs. yankees while there or complained about how horrible New York or its people were. Furthermore, not only do I have American flags all over my house and car, I have a huge one as wallpaper on this computer! I lost two friends in that attack, one in Tower One and another in Tower Two. But, when it comes down to it, regional rivalries take a back burner for me, since terrorist mass murdering filth don't care about differences between us, they just wanna kill Americans. And, I want to make them pay in blood for what they did.
145 posted on 11/19/2001 1:23:39 PM PST by rebelsoldier
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To: rebelsoldier
And, I want to make them pay in blood for what they did.

Then I'm with you Reb. Let's bring W.T. Sherman back and do a real number on them. ;~))

146 posted on 11/19/2001 1:26:30 PM PST by Ditto
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To: safisoft
and were only freed AFTER his death in the 13th Amendment.

Did he die because of cancer 30 years after serving in that office? I seem to forget how he died?
147 posted on 11/19/2001 1:34:42 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
The fitting out of ships as slavers in secret? Kinda reminds one of the kidnap rings to help boost the sex trade overseas. And other such things that don't make the news. Oh well, All in all it was a rather lucrative trade at the time. And to think there are people in my area that say, "And we were slaves!" They don't like it when I ask them how old they are. *chin in hand* Hmmph.
If the author of the Article itself wants to talk about war criminals: Joseph Mengele, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Feliks Dzerzhinsky, etc..etc... etc.. Hitler nedd not be mentioned. Ooops, Genghis Khan. Almost forgot him. Well, enough outta me here. Laugh hard, laugh long. And don't forget the sunscreen.
148 posted on 11/19/2001 1:51:13 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Ditto
I do have to compliment you on your reseach skills. And that is sincere.
149 posted on 11/19/2001 2:16:01 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
The federal Constitution is an agreement that the states would give up certain powers. Which powers? Those decribed within the Constitution itself.

"The subject is the execution of those great powers on which the welfare of a nation essentially depends. It must have been the intention of those who gave these powers, to insure, as far as human prudence could insure, their beneficial execution. This could not be done by confining their choice of means to such narrow limits as not to leave it in the power of Congress to adopt any which might be approprate, and which were conducive to the end...to have prescribed the means by which the government, should, in all future times, execute its powers, would have been to change, entirely, the character of the instrument, and give it the properties of a legal code...

To have declared, that the best means shal not be used, but those alone, without which the power given would be nugatory...if we apply this principle of construction to any of the powers of the government, we shall find it so pernicious in its operation that we shall be compelled to discard it..."

Chief Justice John Marshall, From McCullough v. Maryland, quoted in "American Constittutional Law" A.T. Mason, et al. ed. 1983 p. 165

You were saying?

Justice James Wilson-- "In order, therefore, to form a more perfect union, to establish justice, to insure domestic tranquility, to provide for common defense and to secure the blessings of liberty, those people, among whom were the people of Georgia, ordained and established the present constitution. By that constitution, legislative power is vested, executive power is vested, judicial power is vested...We may then infer, that the people of the United States intended to bind the several states, by the legislative power of the national government...Whoever considers, in a combined and comprehensive view, the general texture of the constitution, wil be satisfied that the people of the United States intended to form themselves into a nation for national purposes. They instituted, for such purposes, a national government complete in all its parts, with powers legislative, executive and judiiciary, ad in all those powers extending over the whole nation.

Jay, Chief Justice:-- The Question we are now to decide has been accurately stated, viz.: Is a state suable by individual citizens of another state?...

The revolution, or rather the Declaration of Independence, found the people already united for general purposes, and at the same time, providing for their more domestic concerns by state conventions, and other temporary arrangements. From the crown of Great Britain, the sovereignty of their country passed to the people of it; and it was then not an uncommon opinion, that the unappropriated lands, which belonged to that crown, passed, not to the people of the colony or states within whose limits they were situated, bt to the whole people; on whatever principles this opinion rested, it did not give way to the other, and thirteen sovereignties were considered as emerged from the principles of the revolution, combined with local convenience and considerations; the people nevertheless continued to consider themselves, in a national point of view, as one people; and they continued without interruption to manage their national concerns accordingly; afterwards, in the hurry of the war, and in the warmth of mutual confidence, they made a confederation of the States, the basis of a general Government.

Experience disappointed the expectations they had formed from it; and then the people, in their collective and national capacity, established the present Constitution. It is remarkable that in establishing it, the people exercised their own rights and their own proper sovereignty, and conscious of the plenitude of it, they declared with becoming dignity, "We the people of the United States," 'do ordain and establish this Constitution." Here we see the people acting as the sovereigns of the whole country.; and in the language of sovereignty, establishing a Constitution by which it was their will, that the state governments should be bound, and to which the State Constitutions should be made to conform. Every State Constitution is a compact made by and between the citizens of a state to govern themeselves in a certain manner; and the Constitution of the United States is liekwise a compact made by the people of the United States to govern themselves as to general objects, in a certain manner. By this great compact however, many prerogatives were transferred to the national Government, such as those of making war and peace, contracting alliances, coining money, etc."

-Chisholm v. Georgia, 1793

"The framers of our Constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom and forebearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many guards and securities, if it was to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for 'perpetual union' so expressed in the preamble, and for the establishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution, or the consent of all the people in convention assembled. It is idle to talk of secession."

--R.E. Lee January 23, 1861

No honorable person who perpetrate the fiction of unilateral state secession

Walt

150 posted on 11/19/2001 2:26:16 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: tberry
My Gawd!

I can't believe they are talking about the apeman without this:

"The Gettysburg speech was at once the shortest and the most famous oration in American history... the highest emotion reduced to a few poetical phrases. Lincoln himself never even remotely approached it. It is genuinely stupendous. But let us not forget that it is poetry, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it. Put it into the cold words of everyday. The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination -- that government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth. IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE UNTRUE. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves." --H.L. Mencken

151 posted on 11/19/2001 2:32:26 PM PST by LadyJD
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
So the federal government has the powers enumerated in the Constitution and nothing else. The states/people have the enumerated rights, AND retain all rights/powers to everything not listed in the federal Constitution.

Jefferson Davis would certainly disagree with you.

"Conscription dramatized a fundamental paradox in the Confederate war effort: the need for Hamiltonian means to achieve Jeffersonian ends. Pure Jeffersonians could not accept this. The most outspoken of them, [Governor] Joseph Brown of Georgia, denounced the draft as a "dangerous usurpation by Congress of the reserved rights of the states...at war with all the principles for which Georgia entered into the revolution." In reply Jefferson Davis donned the mantle of Hamilton. The Confederate Constitution, he pointed out to Brown, gave Congress the power "to raise and support armies" and to "provide for the common defense." It also contained another clause (likewise copied from the U.S. Constitution) empowering Congress to make all laws "necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers." Brown had denied the constitutionality of conscription because the Constitution did not specifically authorize it. This was good Jeffersonian doctrine, sanctified by generations of southern strict constructionists. But in Hamiltonian language, Davis insisted that the "necessary and proper" clause legitimized conscription. No one could doubt the necessity "when our very existence is threatened by armies vastly superior in numbers." Therefore "the true and only test is to enquire whether the law is intended and calculated to carry out the object...if the answer be in the affirmative, the law is constitutional."

--Battle Cry of Freedom, James McPherson P.433

Hmmmm....maybe Davis had read ths:

"Among the enumerated powers, we do not find that of establishing a bank or of creating a corporation. But there is no phrase in the instrument which, like the articles of confederation, excludes incidental or implied powers; and which requires that everything granted shall be expressly and minutely described. Even the 10th amendment, which was framed for the purpose of quieting the excessive jealousies which had been excited, omits the word "expressly," and declares that the powers "not delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or to the people," thus leaving the question, whether the particular power which may become the subject of contest, has been delegated to the one government, or prohibited to the other, to depend on a fair reading of the whole instrument.

...The subject is the execution of those great powers on which the welfare of the nation essentially depends. It must have been the intention of those who gave these powers, to insure, their beneficial execution. This could not be done, by confining the choice of means to such narrow limits as not to leave it in the power of congress to adopt any which might be appropriate, and which were conclusive to the end."

--Chief Justice John Marshall, writing the majority opinion in McCullough v. Maryland, 1819

Putting forward the doctrine of unilateral state secession is dishonorable. It is not supported in the record.

Walt

152 posted on 11/19/2001 2:32:30 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: LadyJD
The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination -- that government of the people, by the people, for the people, should not perish from the earth. IT IS DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE ANYTHING MORE UNTRUE. The Union soldiers in the battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves." --H.L. Mencke

As long as you agree that adults should have the same rights as children playing in a sand box, Mencken is pprobably right.

Walt

153 posted on 11/19/2001 2:34:25 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: Republican Wildcat
uh oh...this is going to get ugly...

Funny, I was thinking the very same thing....this is going to be brutal...

154 posted on 11/19/2001 2:39:23 PM PST by KLT
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To: imperator2
Without the benefit of the civil war the South would be like South Africa today with 95% blacks, and whites fearing for their lives.

How? The black population in America has never even been close to that, and the Confederate Constitution prohibited the importation of slaves except from the USA. Get you facts straight.

155 posted on 11/19/2001 2:41:31 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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To: NovemberCharlie
The targe family size of the black family, and the very limited migration of blacks from the south to the north, would have made the south an almost lilly black country. You southerners are lucky you lost the civil war.
156 posted on 11/19/2001 3:52:57 PM PST by imperator2
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To: fireeater
great post! thanks...
157 posted on 11/19/2001 4:11:15 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: LadyJD
Thanks for the great quote. I put it on top of the page.
158 posted on 11/19/2001 4:23:15 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: imperator2
Neither factor you mentioned is not true now, so how come the South is not "lily" black (orchid-black?) anyway? Unless you're saying that continued slavery would have led to truly phenomenal birth rated among blacks.
159 posted on 11/19/2001 4:25:00 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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To: NovemberCharlie
If you add to the population of the south the blacks in the north who have migrated from the south in search of freedom, jobs, or welfare, and subtruct the northern whites who have moved to he south to retire or for work, you will see that the blacks would have been a huge majority in the south.
160 posted on 11/19/2001 4:41:32 PM PST by imperator2
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