Posted on 11/19/2001 6:09:34 AM PST by Notwithstanding
In 1998, Ramerman and two priests, the Rev. James Callan and the Rev. Enrique Cadena, as well as many parishioners, split from Corpus Christi in Rochester. It resulted in the formation of Spiritus Christi, a 1,500-person congregation independent of the diocese that celebrates Sunday Mass at Hochstein Music School downtown. Ramerman's first Mass as a priest is 8 a.m. today. While she is considered an Old Catholic priest, Spiritus Christi remains an independent church. The auburn-haired mother of three now goes by the title of the Rev. Mary Ramerman. Parishioners need not call her "father," the traditional name associated with Roman Catholic priests. Rather, just call her "Mary," she said.
Ofcourse you don't. If the bible were sufficient then RC would totally heretic wouldn't it?
They don't have female eucharistic ministers in any of the Roman Catholic churchs you attend?
SD
They do, but administering the Eucharist after consecration and consecrating the Eucharist itself are two entirely different things.
I agree but when you said "take communion" from a woman you didn't clarify that, hence the reason for my question. I'm not Roman Catholic anyway so I have no axe to grind. I just know that females often "give" communion at the Catholic Churches I attend from time to time. Administer is probably a more descriptive term in your example. Thanks for the clarification.
When that organization finally admits that they do not attest to the teachings of Christ or view the bible as the word of GOD...then I'll stop.The Pope:
20-Nov-2001 -- ZENIT.org News Agency
ZENIT material may not be reproduced without permission. Permission can be requested at info@zenit.orgDON´T JUST TALK ABOUT CHRIST, POPE SAYS
Exhortation to Ukrainian Catholics, Protestants and Orthodox
VATICAN CITY, (Zenit.org).- It is not enough to talk about Christ -- the need is "to help people see him," John Paul II said today in a challenge to all the Christians of Ukraine.
This was the instruction the Holy Father gave today to 1,500 Ukrainian Greek-Catholic faithful who came to Rome to thank him for his pastoral visit to Kiev and Lviv in June.
Cardinal Lubomyr Husar, archbishop major of Lviv, led the Eastern-rite pilgrims.
The cardinal said during the meeting with the Pope said that the latter´s trip was an event "which has given hope again not only to the Ukrainian people, but to all the Slav world," opening "new possibilities to give witness to Christ in all the territory of the former Soviet Union."
John Paul II responded by challenging the "three venerable" rites (Latin Byzantine and Armenian) which coexist in Ukraine, not to engage in rivalries but to be committed to reciprocal love and respect for the plurality of their traditions, which are a "magnificent symphony of the Church of Christ."
After recalling the harsh years of the Communist regime, the Holy Father acknowledged that "today in your land one can speak freely of God. However, for contemporary man, immersed in noise and the confusion of daily life, words are no longer enough: Not only does he want to hear talk of Christ, " but "in a certain sense he wants to see him."
The Pope said that this challenge should unite Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants.
"Give Ukrainian people the possibility to see their Savior," the Pontiff exhorted. Do "not wait for someone to create the conditions favorable to commitment and pastoral work; inspire them yourselves with creativity and generosity."
He added: "Give witness with your life and works to the presence of the Risen One among you! It is the most eloquent and effective message that you can give to your fellow citizens."
Her supporters are not Catholic and neither is the so-called Bishop who performed the ceremony.
Being Catholic is not a democracy, you either follow the teachings of the Church or you do not. Now one might be damn near Catholic, but that isn't the same.
I wish her well, and I certainly have no ill will toward good people who practice a solid faith. But, Mary there, is no Catholic.
I'm glad I'm a Roman Catholic. My pastors don't foment hatred for other Christians.
I also find it ironic that those who teach a one-time acceptance of a secured salvation are also the ones most afraid of offending God by having a statue of His mother.
SD
"She's not a priest in the RC Church. A small group of people broke away from the RC Church and she was unlawfully ordained a priestess in this schismatic group. She's about as valid as Bambi. We Orthodox have not yet experienced the push for women priests. Our heritage and Tradition are such that it is impossible to even consider. We say this knowing that if it were not for the women the church would have failed long ago. God, in His wisdom, provides for balance within the Body of Christ, too, it is mankind(again) who screws things up."
And what planet do you inhabit? The indicators of man being less than good are prevelant here on earth.
SD
As a matter of fact, they DON'T. Only the priest serves communion where I attend. Women are not allowed in the sanctuary. (Not that any of the women of my parish harbor any desire to be there, anyway.)
Spoken like a true heretic. I'm praying for you, buddy.
Wow. That deserves a bookmark for that remark alone. Thanks.
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