New Conservative Initiative In The Netherlands II

Burke Stichting Nederland ^ | 18 November 2001

[NewAmsterdam]

There are some Dutch conservatives on this site, I noticed. Hopefully you will find this in formation helpful. For all other conservatives here, if any of you here have comments or ideas about cooperation please contact me via e-mail. I am involved with the Burke Foundation and want to make it a success. We have only just started and need as many good ideas and people as possible to firmly place ourselves on the map. Not all is lost and things are changing, also in the Netherlands. Any comments or help or ideas would be much appreciated.

[Fiddlstix]

BUMP

[NewAmsterdam]

Thanks.

[jackbill]

Ping!

[BenR2]

Bump. Great news.

Historically, the Holland of old was a stronghold of Calvinistic Reformation thought.

Formerly controlled by Spain, the Dutch suffered much persecution at the hands of the Roman Catholic Church for their uncompromising Protestant faith.

The Dutch also sent out missionaries around the world. Their influence is still felt in this country, as well.

As recently as 1967, Holland defied Arab international opinion by openly siding with Israel in her struggle for survival.

Of late, however, Holland has stood for drugs, homosexuality, euthanasia, and general immorality -- in short, a real human cesspool.

[AdvisorB]

I'm arriving in Amsterdam on Friday. It's nice to know that there are some people there, that think as I do.

[NewAmsterdam]

It is not as bad as you described, but the problem is that the naturally present conservatism has relatively little chance to express itself. What we hope to do is to get ourselves on the map so others will feel encouraged to take some action themselves, too. Personally, I do so by writing for the press. Thanks for your post.

[NewAmsterdam]

There sure are. I hope you have a good time. Feel welcome.

[Fiddlstix]

You're Welcome :)
Here's another
Bump

[NewAmsterdam]

You're too good...

[AdvisorB]

Thanks, New Amsterdam.

Where are the best restaurants in Amsterdam? It's always good to know where the culinary tourist traps are, so one can avoid them.

[NewAmsterdam]

There are some good ones around the Concertgebouw (Concert Hall)at the south end of Museum Square. There is Keyzer's, Vivaldi's and some more old-fashioned bars/restaurants such as Het Concertje and Het Orkestje. Behind the Concert Hall on the right hand side is another good one, but I can't think of the name now. (My budget doesn't allow me to eat there often). That part of town is more upmarket so you should be able to find a decent place there; I don't know the latest developments on the restaurant-scene because I don't live in Holland at the moment. And businesses come and go quickly.

[NewAmsterdam]

Try to avoid Rembrandtplein and Leidseplein at night. They are tourist-traps squares where the rowdy locals hang out, too. Not my favourites.

[Unam Sanctam]

I wish these Dutch well. The Netherlands once had one of the strongest Catholic communities, which totally collapsed after Vatican II. The Netherlands, as much as anywhere, needs strong pro-life voices to be part of the public square.

[NewAmsterdam]

We will have elections next year. The Party for Freedom and Democracy is the largest party in the polls now. A new party called 'Liveable Netherlands' is set to take about 5 or 6 seats (out of 150). That party is mainly a protest party and not necessarily a blessing on all fronts as far as I am concerned. But it does show that things are moving. We are still a democracy and we will fight for what we think is right. The biggest problem is with the Christian Democrats who cannot sort their party out.

[Leisler]

Bump!

[cornelis]

Hope springs eternal.

[cornelis]

Can Conservatism Counter and Defeat the "Revo?"

[Loyalist]

My own unscientific, unprovable theory about the rapid moral decline of Europe has to do with the two World Wars. World War I killed off the best and brightest of that generation, leaving behind the dregs who sought solace in radical totalitarianism or pacifism.

The Second World War led to the last great wave of European emigration to the New World, taking away even more of the best and brightest who had the initiative to start all over in foreign lands.

The Netherlands is an excellent case in point. Thousands of Dutch--among them the most moral and upright Christian people you'd ever meet, Catholic or Calvinist--emigrated to Canada, Australia and the USA after World War II, while the enervated, effete, elderly and collaborators stayed behind.

[weikel]

Holland already is conservative with a libertarian bent the dutch have it right let the addicts kill themselves.