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To: Stefan Stackhouse
You know what is the HARDEST thing for me, in discussions such as this? It's that I seriously do not believe myself capable of understanding the THOUGHT PROCESS vis a vis the motivations & goals of the terrorists.... and so... how can I ever *predict* their next action, as all their actions are so antithetical to me?

Frankly, it is sheer COGNITIVE DISSONANCE for me to deal with the RAW HATRED and murderous glee and love of DEATH that I see exhibited in these barbaric savages.

I know that "expert military talking heads" have also claimed that OBL would have used nukes on 911 IF he had them....

I cannot say anything like THAT with assurity and certainty myself, as truly, these al-Qaeda goons are so divorced and contrary to anything I personally know - excepting perhaps, casual reading about clinical psychopathology and many years ago I read a whole slew of books about cults.

The post of mine that you reference shows that although I am very accustomed to the VIEW that OBL could not possibly have nukes ready to boom in this beautiful country... that I nonetheless remain open to the possibility, as there is, I feel, NO way to rationally predict the future actions of a mad "holyman" who is a madhi-WANNABEE - and who am I to delve into his apocalyptic messianic PSYCHOSIS..... ? [_grin_]

251 posted on 11/19/2001 9:02:54 AM PST by meridia
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To: meridia
MUSLIM CLERIC INSISTS 20 'SUITCASE NUKES' IN U.S.

U.S. Nuclear Cleric Insists 20,000 "Non-suitcase Nukes" ready for action in ________, ________,________,________, and ________!!

254 posted on 11/19/2001 9:12:32 AM PST by maestro
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To: meridia
>You know what is the HARDEST thing for me, in discussions such as this? It's that I seriously do not believe myself capable of understanding the THOUGHT PROCESS vis a vis the motivations & goals of the terrorists...

This is something I've asked myself a lot recently, and I have some speculation that I haven't seen posted, so I'll put it up here. I think the thought process behind what's going on is understandable, but I think the notion of "crazy terrorists" is a red herring.

I think the bulk of this crisis is driven by domestic, US agenda. I believe the Taliban were acting as "contract agents" in the 911 attack.

Here in the US, the struggle is between at least two power blocs, two coalitions. On one hand, you have the globalists/facists using every incident to increase the powers of the Feds and their control over US citizens. On the other hand, you have the "other side" using every incident to undermine faith in the economy and the whole earn/consume cycle that keeps the stock market crowd in power, presumably to force military rule prior to the patriots "purging" the government and restoring a pure Constitional republic.

How does this help understanding the thinking? Why does this lead me to believe that nuclear weapons or serious biochem threats are next?

Because in a modern democracy -- even a superficial one -- everything depends on HOW MANY people will VOTE for WHAT. And there are only THREE ways to manipulate a popluation's vote: 1) By logic and reason. 2) By propaganda and manipulation. 3) By killing people who don't vote your way.

In modern America, #1 has done all it can do. In modern America, #2 has reached its extreme as well. Politicians have lied all they can. Businessmen have promised all the free lunches they can deliver.

All that remains is #3: To start killing large blocs of voters.

Watch for nuclear/biochem attacks that will be targetted either to make Blue Nation red, or Red Nation blue.

I don't believe there's anything mystical about what's happening to us. I think it's just desperate politicians pushed to their limits and the limits of the context around us. Time will tell.

Mark W.

275 posted on 11/19/2001 11:56:55 AM PST by MarkWar
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