Posted on 11/18/2001 1:38:32 PM PST by codebreaker
A leading Muslim cleric Shaykh Hisham Kabbani, founder of the Islamic Supreme Council of America (ISCA), insists bin Ladens network has bought more than 20 nuclear warheads carried in suitcases.
In 1999 Kabbani first warned the U.S. State Department of bin Laden's impending terrorism.
He told the U.S. Government bin Laden was training suicide bombers in Afghanistan ready to move to any part of the world.
Kabbani said the nuclear weapons, sometimes referred to as "suitcase bombs", were sold by the Russian mafia.
The main effect of airburst is to considerably expand the radius of heat effects, thus percentage of buildings that catch on fire. EMP might also expand a bit. You would especially get an effect with EMP resonating on electrical transmission and telecom wires, resulting in circuits and systems going down quite a few miles from ground zero. The trade off is that you get less blast effect and smaller radii of destruction.
There is a reason why those directives have gone out prohibiting not just overflights, but overflights within several miles radius of nuclear power plants, etc.
No organization no matter how completely stupid they are is going to smuggle 20 nuclear bombs into a country and then use four planes to attack that same country.
Some of you people have got to be white Liberals that are simply in the closet.
There is no other explanation for some of the moronic thought process' that I see here at times.
Your high. They are going to use whatever is ready. Why waste your nukes on say the WTC for example when you were able to take it down with your "conventional" weapons. How does that make sense?
P.S. I am neither "white" nor "liberal"
"4. They are waiting for 11/29, the anniversary of the UN resolution partitioning Palestine and providing the legal basis for the creation of an independent Israel."
I like your thought process....fortunately though....I dont think it is possible to smuggle twenty suitcase nukes into this coutry without one being found...twenty-for-twenty?
The Russians at the height of their cold war abilities couldnt pull that off.
Like I said though...
I am certain that our Best and Brightest are on this threat of suitcase Nukes....I believe Putin would be honest about their inventories and I believe if any were missing that we would be all over it like white on rice....we havent been in the past but we all understand the reasons for that...if the threat of suitcase Nukes was credible...then Congressional and Senate leaders would be called to the White House and the situation explained....
Marshal law would be declared and then refer back to my original scenario.
This is something I've asked myself a lot recently, and I have some speculation that I haven't seen posted, so I'll put it up here. I think the thought process behind what's going on is understandable, but I think the notion of "crazy terrorists" is a red herring.
I think the bulk of this crisis is driven by domestic, US agenda. I believe the Taliban were acting as "contract agents" in the 911 attack.
Here in the US, the struggle is between at least two power blocs, two coalitions. On one hand, you have the globalists/facists using every incident to increase the powers of the Feds and their control over US citizens. On the other hand, you have the "other side" using every incident to undermine faith in the economy and the whole earn/consume cycle that keeps the stock market crowd in power, presumably to force military rule prior to the patriots "purging" the government and restoring a pure Constitional republic.
How does this help understanding the thinking? Why does this lead me to believe that nuclear weapons or serious biochem threats are next?
Because in a modern democracy -- even a superficial one -- everything depends on HOW MANY people will VOTE for WHAT. And there are only THREE ways to manipulate a popluation's vote: 1) By logic and reason. 2) By propaganda and manipulation. 3) By killing people who don't vote your way.
In modern America, #1 has done all it can do. In modern America, #2 has reached its extreme as well. Politicians have lied all they can. Businessmen have promised all the free lunches they can deliver.
All that remains is #3: To start killing large blocs of voters.
Watch for nuclear/biochem attacks that will be targetted either to make Blue Nation red, or Red Nation blue.
I don't believe there's anything mystical about what's happening to us. I think it's just desperate politicians pushed to their limits and the limits of the context around us. Time will tell.
Mark W.
Yes...I am very high thank you.
"They are going to use whatever is ready."
A suitcase Nuke isnt "ready" or are you implying that any of these suitcase Nukes were smuggled in after 9/11?
C'mon man think!
"Why waste your nukes on say the WTC for example when you were able to take it down with your "conventional" weapons."
Why recruit and train 20 highjackers to be able to fly airliners...pay out close to $500,000.00 and take two years preparing for the whole operation at all times risking having the plan exposed when you could've walked in a suitcase Nuke and taken down the WTC and ten other buildings at the same time...along with the Pentagon.....downtown Chicago.....downtown Los Angeles.....downtown this....downtown that....yadayadayada.
You are grasping for impractical and nonsensical straws.
I apologize if I have offended you. Of course none of us hope any US cities "get nuked". Only attempting to make light of the fact that Berkeleyites seem to be, more often than not, anti-Republican, anti-war-in-Afghanistan, anti-American Flag, anti-U.S.A. Please disregard my prior post, as it not intended to be taken literally.
Why waste your suitcase nukes which were reportedly obtained at the cost of $30 million and 2 tons of heroin when you can use a 19 men and a couple of box cutters to achieve the same result? Wouldn't you want to deplete your "conventional" resources first? I know I would. You make my point, however, they spent three years planning this act. They may have spend 5 or more years on the next act. They are very patient. You act as though the planning and implementation of one act is not allowed to overlap the planning and implementation of the next. They could have pulled the trigger on the Airliner attack before the pulled the trigger on the Embassy bombings correct? But they didn't because they are working off of the terrorist timetable and not our timetable.
Even if they didn't succeed in getting nukes in, the mere fact they want to and are thinking about it is serious. Americans need to understand a lot more than they do about Islam and what Muslims mean when they say they are peace loving. They are in their own way, but they believe peace will happen when the whole world becomes Islamic and everyone is living under Sharia. That's the peace they want and are working for, heretics and critics will be put to death, just as they'd put Salmon Rushdie to death. The Nazis too wanted a kind of peace but they believed much the same, they had to get rid of certain types before they could have it.
They are very much like the Nazis in the way they think and live. The difference is, the Nazis turned out to be a temporary historical aberration. Islamic-Facism is like an incurable virus. Our planet will be sick with it for centuries more.
Is this really how you think throughout the day?
I have decided that I am going to smuggle twenty Nuclear weapons into Russia but instead of using them...I am gonna crash four airliners into the Kremlin and some really tall buildings in Novosibirsk.
Of course I know that this will result in the entire Virginia population living in Russia being placed under a microscope, shaken down and arrested which in tow means that my nuclear bombs will be discovered (did I mention that they cost me $30 million and 2 tons of tobacco?)...but hey...I am on a timeline baby.
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