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Bush Insisted Only He Should Decide Who Should Stand Trial Before Military Court
www.prnewswire.com (Thanks to Drudge) ^ | Nov. 18, 2001 | PRNewswire

Posted on 11/18/2001 1:30:37 PM PST by It'salmosttolate

Bush Insisted Only He Should Decide Who Should Stand Trial Before Military Court

Secret Legal Document Gave Bush Wartime Powers,
Including Holding Secret Tribunals

NEW YORK, Nov. 18 /PRNewswire/ -- After he signed an order allowing the use of military tribunals in terrorist cases, President George W. Bush insisted he alone should decide who goes before such a military court, his aides tell Newsweek. The tribunal document gives the government the power to try, sentence -- and even execute -- suspected foreign terrorists in secrecy, under special rules that would deny them constitutional rights and allow no chance to appeal.

(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20011118/HSSA005 ) Bush's powers to form a military court came from a secret legal memorandum, which the U.S. Justice Department began drafting in the days after Sept. 11, Newsweek has learned. The memo allows Bush to invoke his broad wartime powers, since the U.S., they concluded, was in a state of "armed conflict." Bush used the memo as the legal basis for his order to bomb Afghanistan. Weeks later, the lawyers concluded that Bush would use his expanded powers to form a military court for captured terrorists. Officials envision holding the trials on aircraft carriers or desert islands, report Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff and Contributing Editor Stuart Taylor Jr. in the November 26 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, November 19).

The idea for a secret military tribunal was first presented by William Barr, a Justice Department lawyer -- and later attorney general -- under the first President Bush, as a way to handle the terrorists responsible for the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. The idea didn't take back then. But Barr floated it to top White House officials in the days after Sept. 11 and this time he found allies, Newsweek reports. Barr's inspiration came when he walked by a plaque outside his office commemorating the trial of Nazi saboteurs captured during World War II. The men were tried and most were executed in secret by a special military tribunal.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eo; gwot; militarytribunal; september12era
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To: amundsen
Whats selective? Harry is against the war and for open borders.
161 posted on 11/18/2001 5:33:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
The rules at Nurenberg that you sent have huge omissions. Where are the rules of evidence, etc.,etc.?
162 posted on 11/18/2001 5:36:43 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: Texasforever
WHY?
163 posted on 11/18/2001 5:37:43 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: It'salmosttolate
I don't see them sighting any sources for this supposed demand by the president.
164 posted on 11/18/2001 5:39:03 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: forummonkey
go Paleo

Is that what the John Birch Society is calling itself these days?

166 posted on 11/18/2001 5:41:18 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: GROUCHOTWO
Hey, I just linked them, I didn't write them.

If you were a witness against Al Quaeda or bin Laden, would you like your faceand name broadcast globally? If you were a jury member, would you be concerned for your family? After all, how do you think Gotti stayed out of jail for all those years. He threatened jurors.

167 posted on 11/18/2001 5:42:19 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: GROUCHOTWO
Why?, Because the bulk of the evidence against these guys will be by paid informants, undercover operatives and classified government material. If you don't have the common sense to understand that then there is no need in trying to discus it with you.
168 posted on 11/18/2001 5:44:34 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: amundsen
Do you support Harry Browns opposition to force in the face of the 9/11/01 attacks on America?

Do you support the opening of all borders today 11/18/01?

170 posted on 11/18/2001 5:48:38 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: amundsen
Oh, by the way, they wont just try to charge you excessive interest on your credit card, they might lock you up in jail and execute you.

What in the blue bloody hell are you talking about? The EO is for NON-CITIZENS. You come and talk about it when he changes that part of the EO and I will be right beside you. Until then you are basing your argument either on a misunderstanding OR a deliberate lie.

172 posted on 11/18/2001 5:52:27 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: amundsen
I guess I don't get your point. President Bush has the right to respond military in our national self interest. President Bush also has the right to his executive order it doesn't matter that Congress has declared war or not. My point was either we're at war or we aren't, we are.
174 posted on 11/18/2001 5:58:04 PM PST by marajade
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To: jwalsh07
You're asking some pretty tough questions to those Libertarians... Do you really expect them to be answered?
175 posted on 11/18/2001 5:59:32 PM PST by marajade
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To: amundsen
Why should the government be any different? Oh, by the way, they wont just try to charge you excessive interest on your credit card, they might lock you up in jail and execute you. Minor differences only.

One of us needs rest amundsen.

176 posted on 11/18/2001 5:59:34 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: It'salmosttolate
Cool! W is da judge!

I trust W will do da right thang!

177 posted on 11/18/2001 5:59:58 PM PST by nagdt
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To: amundsen
"As Chuck Heston said in Touch of Evil, A policeman’s job is only easy in a police state.'"

You've been watching too many movies.

178 posted on 11/18/2001 6:01:15 PM PST by marajade
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To: rdavis84
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as long as I'm the dictator..."

--Washington, DC, Dec 18, 2000, during his first trip to Washington as President-Elect

Oooh ... please don't kill me with our President's sense of humor. It'll set me off to criticizing and I'll be accused of another hate-crime.

179 posted on 11/18/2001 6:02:30 PM PST by Askel5
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To: marajade
No, adios you're a good ally. I'll remember that when I am taking a beating! Good night.
180 posted on 11/18/2001 6:08:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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