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Bush Insisted Only He Should Decide Who Should Stand Trial Before Military Court
www.prnewswire.com (Thanks to Drudge) ^ | Nov. 18, 2001 | PRNewswire

Posted on 11/18/2001 1:30:37 PM PST by It'salmosttolate

Bush Insisted Only He Should Decide Who Should Stand Trial Before Military Court

Secret Legal Document Gave Bush Wartime Powers,
Including Holding Secret Tribunals

NEW YORK, Nov. 18 /PRNewswire/ -- After he signed an order allowing the use of military tribunals in terrorist cases, President George W. Bush insisted he alone should decide who goes before such a military court, his aides tell Newsweek. The tribunal document gives the government the power to try, sentence -- and even execute -- suspected foreign terrorists in secrecy, under special rules that would deny them constitutional rights and allow no chance to appeal.

(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20011118/HSSA005 ) Bush's powers to form a military court came from a secret legal memorandum, which the U.S. Justice Department began drafting in the days after Sept. 11, Newsweek has learned. The memo allows Bush to invoke his broad wartime powers, since the U.S., they concluded, was in a state of "armed conflict." Bush used the memo as the legal basis for his order to bomb Afghanistan. Weeks later, the lawyers concluded that Bush would use his expanded powers to form a military court for captured terrorists. Officials envision holding the trials on aircraft carriers or desert islands, report Investigative Correspondent Michael Isikoff and Contributing Editor Stuart Taylor Jr. in the November 26 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, November 19).

The idea for a secret military tribunal was first presented by William Barr, a Justice Department lawyer -- and later attorney general -- under the first President Bush, as a way to handle the terrorists responsible for the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland. The idea didn't take back then. But Barr floated it to top White House officials in the days after Sept. 11 and this time he found allies, Newsweek reports. Barr's inspiration came when he walked by a plaque outside his office commemorating the trial of Nazi saboteurs captured during World War II. The men were tried and most were executed in secret by a special military tribunal.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eo; gwot; militarytribunal; september12era
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To: NotTheMama
Do you always insult people with whom you disagree? Is this the way you talk to people in real life?

No and sometimes, depending on how much they get under my skin. But I never shirk from my beliefs. If I offended you, I apologise, we are all Americans and we all have strong views. But, I gotta tell you, you haven't tocuhed the surface of what a nasty sob I can be given the proper motivation. :-}

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141 posted on 11/18/2001 4:56:52 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: amundsen
It's very hard to believe that after 9/11 that any American would be for giving to foreign terrorists the same judicial rights as American citizens.It's a shame and a disgrace!
142 posted on 11/18/2001 4:57:44 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: marajade
Okie dokie. Actually I enjoy reading your posts on FR and find you to be a big stinker.

Thanks! :-}

144 posted on 11/18/2001 4:59:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: forummonkey
Debating simians doesn't take much thought, wouldn't you agree?
146 posted on 11/18/2001 5:02:46 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Zordas
That Order also violates international treaties and departs from the US demand for non-military trials for Americans in other countries

Cite the treaties and apllicable sections.

148 posted on 11/18/2001 5:05:19 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: forummonkey
"So this is how you lemmings find each other ..."

Careful your getting to where your post could be censured.

149 posted on 11/18/2001 5:06:11 PM PST by marajade
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To: CommiesOut
A trial by a military court means that the American people will NEVER HEAR THE EVIDENCE!
150 posted on 11/18/2001 5:06:47 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: Texasforever; Zordas
I second that request... Please cite specifics.
151 posted on 11/18/2001 5:07:07 PM PST by marajade
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To: GROUCHOTWO
The Rules for the Military Tribunal Conducted at Nuremberg
152 posted on 11/18/2001 5:13:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: lelio
The president is Commander in Chief, these are military courts trying foreign attackers. This is the auspice under which the President is going to use this manner to effectively defend our country from attack. It will be in very special circumstances and not used to try citizens of the U.S.

It's a military function, and rightly so. That's why I infer that it is part of supporting our military as they perform their duty for our common defense.

154 posted on 11/18/2001 5:14:25 PM PST by D-fendr
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To: forummonkey
Very snappy repartee.
155 posted on 11/18/2001 5:15:30 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
The proposed tribunals are to be in secret.
156 posted on 11/18/2001 5:22:50 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: GROUCHOTWO
The proposed tribunals are to be in secret.

As they must be.

158 posted on 11/18/2001 5:26:58 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: GROUCHOTWO
Thus far the rules for the proposed tribunals have not been drawn up. I posted the Nurmeberg rules for reference only.
160 posted on 11/18/2001 5:32:16 PM PST by jwalsh07
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