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Taliban Offer Conditional Surrender
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 11/18/01

Posted on 11/18/2001 8:58:55 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

Taliban offer conditional surrender

November 18, 2001

BY ELLEN KNICKMEYER ASSOCIATED PRESS

BANGI, Afghanistan -- Defenders of the last Taliban stronghold in northern Afghanistan made a conditional offer of surrender Sunday after a day of devastating U.S. airstrikes, the opposition northern alliance said.

U.S. B-52s led a day of intense bombing on Taliban positions outside the city of Kunduz, sending huge fireballs skyward. On Sunday evening, an opposition commander said the Taliban had offered to give up provided there was a guarantee of safety for foreign fighters loyal to Osama bin Laden.

Refugees fleeing the city of Kunduz over the weekend, meanwhile, told of terror at the hands of Taliban troops and bin Laden loyalists. One described a doctor shot and killed for not treating a wounded Taliban fast enough, and others said eight teen-age boys were killed for laughing at Taliban soldiers.

Witnesses also said at least 100 Taliban soldiers were shot, apparently by gunmen from their own side, as they approached northern alliance lines in an attempt to surrender.

The conditional surrender offer was reported by an opposition commander, Nahidullah, who said it was made during negotiations conducted by radio with the Taliban. The Taliban said they would surrender if the alliance guaranteed that non-Afghans fighting alongside them would not be killed and if the surrender were witnessed by United Nations representatives.

There are an estimated 3,000 non-Afghans fighting with the Taliban in Kunduz, including Arabs believed to be affiliated with bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network as well as Pakistanis.

There was no immediate word whether the opposition alliance has accepted the offer.

Elsewhere in Afghanistan, a private news agency said U.S. bombardment of Taliban positions in their home base of Kandahar in the south and outside the eastern city of Jalalabad had killed more than 70 people overnight. The reports could not be independently confirmed.

The latest American bombardment of Taliban lines outside Kunduz used the largest bombs yet unleashed in the area. Flames shot into the air, and cracking booms echoed across the valley floor toward the northern alliance's own foxholes in opposing ridges. Avalanches of soil cascaded down the targeted hillsides.

Taliban soldiers could be seen running out on the distant ridges, trying to find cover.

Northern alliance forces had moved a multiple-rocket launcher and two tanks up to the road that is the eastern approach to Kunduz, but there was no sign an attack was imminent.

Refugees fleeing Kunduz over the past several days have said the city is under the control of Arab, Pakistani, Chechen and other foreign fighters--and a hard core of Taliban fighters from Kandahar.

In and near Bangi, a village about 30 miles east of Kunduz, refugees gave chilling accounts of conditions inside the city.

The Taliban were barring people from leaving, telling them, "If you leave the USA will bomb all the city," said a refugee named Dar Zardad. He said he made it out of the city only after Taliban beat him with their rifle butts.

Zardad described the killing in Kunduz of a group of boys in their late teens by Taliban from Kandahar after some of the youths laughed at them. He and others also recounted how troops shot and killed a doctor when he delayed responding to their summons to come treat wounded Taliban fighters.

Refugees said people of the city were hiding indoors and closing their shops for fear of summary execution by the Taliban. Foreign fighters, using local translators, were broadcasting loudspeaker announcements saying they would be taking the offensive against northern alliance troops laying siege to the city.

The reports of bombings in eastern Nangarhar province and in Kandahar came from the Afghan Islamic Press. It said the Nangarhar raid killed 30 people, and quoted a Pakistani official at the nearby Torkham border crossing as saying seven wounded were brought to Pakistan for treatment.

It also said U.S. jets struck targets around Kandahar, killing 46 people, as the stalemate continued over control of the Taliban stronghold.

In the capital, Kabul, U.N. envoy Francesc Vendrell was trying to help work out a plan for a new Afghan government. The former president, Burhanuddin Rabbani, returned to Kabul on Saturday for the first time in five years.

Rabbani has never relinquished his claim to the presidency, though he has acknowledged the international calls for a broad-based government that would include all of Afghanistan's ethnic groups.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Saturday that the United States has been pressuring the northern alliance to share power with other factions and to let the United Nations oversee assembly of a new government. U.S. officials are in the region and in direct contact with the alliance, he said.

Vendrell said he had a preliminary meeting with Rabbani's acting foreign minister, Abdullah, on Sunday. He described the exchange as "cordial" but said no outstanding issues were resolved.

Copyright 2001 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Why are they worried about the foreign soldiers? After all, I thought they would be in a better place with 72 virgins.
41 posted on 11/18/2001 9:59:21 AM PST by VA Voter
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Do any of you know what is done to a dog that is mad? You kill it. Also, the pups because you can't afford to have that blood in the bloodline.
42 posted on 11/18/2001 10:04:26 AM PST by Parmy
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"If you leave the USA will bomb all the city,"

Translation:
"If all the civilians leave, we become a military target".

Kiss your (Tali) bums goodbye!

43 posted on 11/18/2001 10:04:32 AM PST by MamaTexan
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
In the pictures of Taliban, it doesn't appear that they are wearing uniforms. Wouldn't any foreigner who is not wearing a uniform be subject to summary execution as a foreign spy?
44 posted on 11/18/2001 10:07:27 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
If you want to surrender, put down your guns, put up your hands, and walk across the battle line.

If you are afraid you will be shot in the back by someone, shoot them first.

No conditions. You want to give up, each and every one of you have to do it on your own.

45 posted on 11/18/2001 10:07:44 AM PST by justlurking
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To: aquawrench
Nope, I want them all dead

Seems like they want to sacrifice the poor guys the country belongs to while letting Ben's flea infested, sorry bunch of camel Jockeys ride off into the sunset. How BRAVE of these punks. Kill em all and get on with the show!

46 posted on 11/18/2001 10:12:24 AM PST by LUVYA DUBYA 2000
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The Taliban said they would surrender if the alliance guaranteed that non-Afghans fighting alongside them would not be killed and if the surrender were witnessed by United Nations representatives.

We should send over the American peaceniks to act as witnesses to the surrender. Let them walk in between the two warring factions and show them their selfless surrendering of their own lives in exchange for peace. They can bring daisies to place in the muzzles of all the Kalashnikovs. It oughta be a new leftist tradition in martyrdom and Islam-like surrender. Many will end up shot or enslaved. Their selfless sacrifices will lift the spirits of the evildoers, and inspire them to a greater civilized state. We will call this the Second Children's Crusade.

47 posted on 11/18/2001 10:19:30 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The questions to answer are: How much do you lose by proceeding with the seige, in terms of NA forces and civilian losses? Does bad publicity from rejecting the offer make other tasks more difficult? FWIW, my answer: No conditions. And get the presstitutes the hell out of there!
48 posted on 11/18/2001 10:37:51 AM PST by Faraday
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To: Diogenesis
Don't grant these barbarian bast*rds any quarter at all. Wipe them out completely, just like they did the innocents in the WTC.

None of these terrorists and their supporters should be left standing to fight another day.

49 posted on 11/18/2001 10:59:53 AM PST by zbogwan2
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To: Polybius
We have a feeling some of the commanders will be offered to the U.S. for trial in exchange for cash and other consideration.
50 posted on 11/18/2001 11:11:43 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: jrlc
The HOLEY MONTH of BOMB-adon

OMG------too funny!!!!

51 posted on 11/18/2001 11:11:45 AM PST by Yup!!
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
ABSOLUTELY NO QUARTERS!!!

52 posted on 11/18/2001 11:21:38 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
I say no to all offers. No prisoners. Send a message to those watching our resolve and our response. Mess with us and you die. Period. Kill em all.
53 posted on 11/18/2001 11:25:46 AM PST by Roebucks
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To: Cultural Jihad
We should send over the American peaceniks to act as witnesses to the surrender.

Excellent Idea. In fact, I think those that have been attending the peacenik rallies should suggest that very thing and volunteer to make the plane reservations :-)

54 posted on 11/18/2001 11:43:32 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: VOA
The Christian part of me says: We are fighting in memory of our God, our famillies and our counry. We should not end this battle early if doing so leaves us at risk.

Unconditional surrender. Put down your weapons, take an oath to never attack the US or other allied countries again. If that is unpalatable, then continue fighting.

We will not give an inch to terrorism.

55 posted on 11/18/2001 11:47:01 AM PST by Ruth A.
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
All excellent points... and you're right. These Taliban's have already made their decision ... to eliminate the USA, Israel and any and all capitalist systems. :-)
56 posted on 11/18/2001 11:50:27 AM PST by Gracey
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To: Roebucks
In the words of T.E. Lawrence..."TAKE NO PRISONERS!!!"...

FMCDH

57 posted on 11/18/2001 11:50:39 AM PST by nothingnew
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Maybe we could send the Rev. Jessee Jaxson over to "rescue" the talisband!
58 posted on 11/18/2001 11:51:50 AM PST by exnavy
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Doesn't the U.S. have a standing policy of Not negotiating with terrorists?

Just say no.

59 posted on 11/18/2001 11:53:06 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
How 'bout dimes or nickles?
60 posted on 11/18/2001 11:56:46 AM PST by oioiman
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