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Other Countries Could Face US Military Action (Yet We Still Don't Deport/Arrest The Enemies HERE!)
London Guardian ^ | November 17, 2001 | Ewen MacAskill

Posted on 11/17/2001 12:51:14 PM PST by t-shirt

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(1)Our government still hasn't re-armed our pilots as the US pilots Association has asked for. Note that US pilots were armed before the evil 1968 Gun Control was passed.

(2)Still virtually nothing is being done to deport and/or millions of illegal immigrants and terror linked foriegn individuals.

(3) Our government claims they have no living suspects involved in the September 11, 2001 attacks.

(4)Our government claims they have no suspects or arrests in the fatal anthrax attacks, despite the evidence against some middle Easterners.

(5)Yet our government seems sure without any evidence at all that whoever did the anthrax attacks had to be a lone American, possibly a right-winger.

(6) And let us not forget that those (who are dead) involved in the attacks on September 11th were mostly from Saudi Arabia(including the ring laeder Atta & bin Laden himself), yet the government never suggests Saudi Arabia as a target.

(7) Also let us not forget that many of the men were trained in the USA to be pilots with government loans and assistence, and were long on FBI, CIA, INS and State Department watch lists and should have been deported long before the 9-11 attcks occured!

(8)Yet before we bother securing America and thus preventing more attcks we talk about attacking other countries for "harboring terrorists", while our government is defacto harboring them here!

1 posted on 11/17/2001 12:51:14 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: Black Jade; DoughtyOne; Mercuria; AnnaZ; FormerLurker; jeremiah; ratcat; Black Cat; brat...
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2 posted on 11/17/2001 12:54:31 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: jedediah smith; Freeper; Lurker; ALOHA RONNIE; The Duke; Jethro Tull
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3 posted on 11/17/2001 12:55:37 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: OKCSubmariner
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4 posted on 11/17/2001 12:58:11 PM PST by t-shirt
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To: t-shirt
you make very good points IMHO.
5 posted on 11/17/2001 12:58:56 PM PST by Red Jones
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To: t-shirt
While I generally agree. I still feel that taking the war to the enemy is a lot more effective than running around the US trying to find a needle in a haystack.
6 posted on 11/17/2001 1:02:36 PM PST by WriteOn
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To: t-shirt; Prodigal Daughter; gg188
Being a CA girl, and now a resident of AZ, I am ultimately aware of the problems with illegal immigration, but that focus was on our southern borders. After hearing about what has occurred with student visas, etc., it has become clear that we have been inviting disaster.

It is incredible to imagine that our government, under Clinton, decided to erase the fourth amendment, and to snatch Elian, breaking all laws, but turns a blind eye to these terrorist threats. The day of 9-11, all borders should have been closed. Don't you think it is time to stop saying we are a country ruled by law, but everyday, turn our backs on our laws?

7 posted on 11/17/2001 1:18:33 PM PST by Angelique
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(2)Still virtually nothing is being done to deport and/or millions of illegal immigrants and terror linked foriegn individuals.

My only hope here, is they are watching many, phones tapped, e-mails traced, and they are trying to catch the ring leaders and gather evidence before deportation...I hope that is their plan...

8 posted on 11/17/2001 1:22:40 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: t-shirt
Of course all of what you touched on is true. And I do have to admit, I laugh my a-- off every time there's talk of bombing all nations who harbor terrorists. Don't these people know that we did and still do harbor middle-eastern terrorists and have no intention of deporting them?

Why would we when we still allow our southern border to operate like an open door to a bank vault? This is in light of the fact that we know Mexican nationals are not the only ones coming over.

We know of nearly 100 Iraqis that were detained at the border, even though we swear to know that Iraq is training people to be terrorists on our soil. Still we allow the border to remain open. You will find no troops there, now or in the future!

There is an extreme need to tarnish constitutionalists in this nation. The goal is to make it completely impossible for anyone to champion the constitution and the rights it guarantees. We live in a time when everything our nation has every stood for could be destroyed in months time.

9 posted on 11/17/2001 1:41:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Angus_Day
Hot air from Washington to make us feel nice and fuzzy.

Correct! That is the exact premise behind the new bill for aiport security. We are getting rid of the security service here in Sky Harbor, Phoenix, AFTER Thanksgiving...it never ends!

As far as I know, when a person screws up on the job, they are fired! Oh! That doesn't make sense because we have so many laws to protect employees. Let's just make more laws to continue what is ineffective, and make us pay for it with our dollars. Why doesn't anyone see this part?

11 posted on 11/17/2001 2:02:58 PM PST by Angelique
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To: t-shirt
Caught this the other day, but did not get the Authors name. Just this one paragarph pretty well sums up why we are never going to be secure:

If you wonder why such dangerous characters were not denied visas prior to Sept. Look to the 1990 Immigration Act, sponsored by Sen. Ted kennedy (D-Mass.). Under that law, advocating terrorism, or even belonging to a group that engages in terrorism could not be used as grounds for denying a U.S. Visa.

With idiots like Ted (what a guy) Kennedy in government, we'll never be a safe nation. President Bush now wants to name the Justice Department after Ted's brother, Robert F. Kennedy. Folks this compassionate bullsh** can just go so far.

12 posted on 11/17/2001 2:32:28 PM PST by IW
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Don't these people know that we did and still do harbor middle-eastern terrorists and have no intention of deporting them?

I like to hope that it's because they are really more useful to us here and that all their communications with the others back home are being closely monitored. I'm not sure it's really all that easy for the Arabs to move through Mexico without being noticed. There was a report here that the Mexican government has told the people over there to be on the lookout for Arabs, and if they see strangers traveling to try and talk to them and find out about them and report anything suspicious, which is more than they can tell us to do because we still have those politically correct types. Even if an Arab could look enough like a Mexican, they can't sound like one and I hear they're being caught over there and turned over to our INS.

13 posted on 11/17/2001 2:32:45 PM PST by FITZ
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"If Bin Laden was to escape from Afghanistan, Somalia is one of the few countries left that might provide him succour, though it is a harder place to hide in."

I've believed all along that Somalia would be our next target. The Rangers must be 'biting at the bits' to go back. (No Clinton incompetents to deal with)

14 posted on 11/17/2001 2:37:36 PM PST by blam
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To: t-shirt
Dang, I suspected that Atta and his pals used government loans for their fight training and this confirms it. It's just rediculous.
15 posted on 11/17/2001 2:38:17 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: t-shirt
We are all living on borrowed time my friend. Due to our immigration "policy", we have imported a lot of enemies rather than American wanna-bes(a noble aspiration imho).

The enemies foriegn have always been there. So have the enemies domestic been here - and they're gaining a wider spectrum of operations.

16 posted on 11/17/2001 2:45:09 PM PST by martian_22
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To: t-shirt
Government security is an oxymoron. The really frightening thing about government is how much better a Republican government is. Those who would argue that Republicans are no different than Democrats aren't much smarter than the Democrats they are running down. The surest sign that I have ever seen that God is watching over the United States is that Al Gore isn't in the Whitehouse.
17 posted on 11/17/2001 3:01:03 PM PST by B. A. Conservative
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"Planners in Washington and London are considering the next steps. The ease with which Kabul has fallen has encouraged hawks within the US administration who are keen to extend military action, particularly against Iraq."

Thanks for the post.

18 posted on 11/17/2001 3:09:42 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: t-shirt
Mr Cheney said that up to 50 states could be targeted for a range of action, from financial and diplomatic to military, on the grounds that they had al-Qaida networks operating there.

Well, that covers them all from Alaska to Wyoming. Grab your checkbooks and head for the bomb shelter folks ;-)

19 posted on 11/17/2001 3:19:30 PM PST by varon
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We know of nearly 100 Iraqis that were detained at the border, even though we swear to know that Iraq is training people to be terrorists on our soil. Still we allow the border to remain open.

Far be it for me to tell the US what their policy should be. But I have noticed that a few too many individuals in these terrorist organisations are trained in the US.

Furthermore, I have educated friends who would love to live in the US. But they say at the embassy here its hard to get into the US and we are a friendly country (ignorant Prime Minister aside)! How it is these terrorists can get into the US is beyond me.

20 posted on 11/17/2001 3:22:07 PM PST by klee
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