Islam vs Christianity....... Why do they want to kill us, if they came from us?

[Don Myers]

They may try to claim some things from the Christian religion, but they are not us. They must destroy anyone who is not like them. Their religion calls for the death of those who are not like them.

[B Knotts]

I would make one quibble. The grace is not "earned" by faith; nothing we can do makes us deserving of salvation. We believe, and we are saved, but we are not saved because of the act of believing. We are saved solely through God's grace and His love for us.

It's kind of a fine point, but I think it's important. The act of believing doesn't save us any more than helping a little old lady across the street does. Through our faith in His Only Son, we ask God for his mercy, and because He is a loving God, he grants us His grace. The works we do are important, however, because they demonstrate to our brothers and sisters our devotion to God.

I hope I got that right; I'm not much of a theologian, but I try the best I can. :-)

[Hank Rearden]

No, I didn't bother reading it all, because I really don't care why they want to kill us.

For those who do care, though, perhaps we can torture the answer out of the Afghani Moos just before they expire.

[mlocher]

why do they want to kill us if they came from us

first, they did not come from us (christianity). christianity is the fullfilment of the prophecy as taught in the old testament. islam split from judaism long before that.

second, read the part that on the bible comparison

it [the bible] is to be treated with respect, however any statements which clearly oppose those of the qur'an are to be rejected as the work of mankind

it is clear that the moslems do not believe in the bible and all it teaches.

[Terriergal]

Yeah, it's a little... goofy.

"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom" 2 Cor 3:17

"And the Word was God." John 1:1

Ps 45:6,7 (messianic passage) "Your throne, O God, will last forever...
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions."

(This kind of addressing the coming messiah as God and then referring to God as the messiah's God is something to express their being one and the same, and yet separate. Much as the word for God "elohim" is plural yet to call God "gods" is blasphemous. That is why they said Christ committed blasphemy, because all through the Old Testament it is taught that the Son of Man, the Messiah, would be himself God.)

John 8:57-59 "You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

[Cindy]

[wwjdn]

I know al about the story of Judas. What no one can explain to me is that his story invalidates the myth of salvation in a moment where one can never lose salvation.

I believe that if we don't accept Jesus death and resurection, get baptised, and live according his his will (which includes witnessing, being a strong member of a church, etc. [which I call works]) then we cannot go to Heaven. The exception to this in the Bible was the thief on the croos next to Jesus who through faith alone entered into paradise (not Heaven yet).

I can't point to a specific verse that spells this out, but the Bible in whole points this direction. Yes we are saved by faith through Jesus sacrifice on the cross. But not all are saved.

Please do not get me wrong, I am not a biblical expert. In fact I am still learning a great deal about my saviour and his word. I am seeking the truth of the Lord.

[He Rides A White Horse]

In fact I am still learning a great deal about my saviour and his word.

Me too. Probably until the day I die.

[wwjdn]

God willing. I learn more each day.

I really enjoy your posts. Thanks.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Ping me anytime.

[MHGinTN]

Your initial question of this thread belies your lack of discernment and your inability to comprehend that which you've opened your mind to which is decidedly non-Christian in nature. Stop it. Islam is the fabrication of a very fertile human mind, possibly inspired/directed by a very brilliant demonic mind. Comparisons of manmade religions and God authored belief system are absurd in the main.

[wwjdn]

I just wrote a new article that may be interesting. Path to salvation?

Thanks for the encouragement.

[He Rides A White Horse]

You're welcome. Let me know when you post it.

[wwjdn]

Path to salvation

This is a post written by me about my experiences.

[He Rides A White Horse]

On my way.....