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FBI Sitting on Flt. 587 Videotape
Newsmax ^ | 11.16.01 | Newsmax

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:12 PM PST by callisto

A videotape that could show exactly what happened to American Airlines Flight 587, which crashed three minutes after taking off from New York's JFK airport on Monday, is in the hands of the FBI -- but the bureau has thus far declined to release it.

New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority spokesman Tom Kelly confirmed to the Daily News Friday that the agency has given surveillance videotapes from Cross Bay Blvd. and Marine Parkway bridges to the FBI.

"One tape captures the plane taking off from JFK," the News said.

Cross Bay Blvd. and Marine Parkway traverse Jamaica Bay, where the plane's vertical stabilizer was discovered intact after the crash.

Dozens of eyewitnesses have told media outlets they saw an explosion and/or a fire at the juncture of Flt. 587's wing and fusilage moments before it began to break up, losing its tail first, then both its engines.

Catastrophic engine failure, which was first suspected to have caused the explosion, was ruled out Tuesday after NTSB investigators examined the engines and found no evidence of mechanical failure.

Since discovering the engines were working properly, NTSB spokeswoman Marion Blakely -- along with most media outlets -- have quietly dropped references to witness accounts of a midair explosion.

The NTSB now says that wind turbulence from another plane is the most likely cause of the crash. One former jumbo jet veteran pilot was highly skeptical of the turbulence theory.

"If wind turbulence caused that accident, I'll never fly again," Barry Schiff, who flew 747's for TWA, told the New York Post.

But a videotape showing the exact sequence of Flt. 587's break-up could clear up any mystery, showing whether or not the break-up was caused by an explosion or by turbulence.

It's not clear why the FBI has not yet released the MTA video -- or even commented on what it shows. It's also not clear why the Flt. 587 video was not turned over to the NTSB instead of the FBI, which had reportedly adopted a secondary role in the wake of NTSB claims that the crash was an accident.

When an Air France Concorde jetliner crashed after catching fire on takeoff from a rural French airport last year, an amatuer video of the accident was released within 48 hours.

Calls to the FBI's New York office and to MTA spokesman Kelly were not returned by presstime.


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To: NAMMARINE
There isa nother mechanical issue here too. Composites are funny. They don't react to loads and stress the way metal does. Metal bends, then gives a bit, then finally breaks. Composites are very strong, but when they are overloaded, they hold till they break, them they go completely.

Lots to learn here.

181 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:21 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: concerned about politics
Not in your wildest dreams, sissy boy.
182 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:21 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: callisto
Gmvt. contracts high-end photo work out to company called ITEX (sp) in Rochester. They do great work.
184 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:21 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: NAMMARINE
the media demands fast answers

Too bad they don't wait for right answers.

185 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:22 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: RussianBear716
Nope, I'm not omnipotent and never claimed that. You have still not answered the question originally posed.
186 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:22 PM PST by jammer
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Boston is where the 9-11 flights took off from. Sounds like a place that the maintenence people should be questioned.
187 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:22 PM PST by afz400
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To: golitely; rdavis84
Gee, isn't this familiar. We're all still waiting to see the security videos of the Murrah Building just before the explosion (and perhaps some just after) it was blown up.

looks like another pesky video is getting in the way of "the truth".

190 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:24 PM PST by thinden
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To: jammer
Anything I posted would not meet with your omnipotent vision... so why should I bother. I'll talk to the wall, surely its more receptive to logic and defintely less paranoid
191 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:25 PM PST by RussianBear716
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To: JoeSchem
Today, we have AA 587 crashing under circumstances very similar to TWA 800. If it turns out that there is evidence that 587 was hit by a terrorist missile, then of course it becomes very obvious to draw the line back to 800, and people start to say, "Cover Up!" and the Clinton House of Cards collapses.
and bush's reasons for propping up the clinton house of cards would be.....?

a fairly newbie freeper (me) is astounded by the fact that many around here cannot get over the fact that CLINTON AIN'T THE PREZ ANYMORE AND IS ENTIRELY INCONSEQUENTIAL, the worst thing that has happened to you is that Gore was not elected. Then you could have had a real ball with AA587. Good thing Hillary's around...

192 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:27 PM PST by dmz
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To: RussianBear716
Anything I posted would not meet with your omnipotent vision... so why should I bother. I'll talk to the wall, surely its more receptive to logic and defintely less paranoid

First, aren't you trying to say "omniscient"? Another characteristic which I do not claim to have. Call me paranoid, but I think you don't have your definitions straight.

Your sneering statement that people should accept either mechanical failure (which I do) or turbulence certainly displayed no logic. Which one was it? And who's paranoid? I respect the beliefs of people with different viewpoints. I do not respect people that are intolerant of ideas that at least can be disagreed upon by honorable people.

Do you or your significant other receive a paycheck from the US Government?

193 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:56 PM PST by jammer
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To: dmz
Today, we have AA 587 crashing under circumstances very similar to TWA 800. If it turns out that there is evidence that 587 was hit by a terrorist missile, then of course it becomes very obvious to draw the line back to 800, and people start to say, "Cover Up!" and the Clinton House of Cards collapses.

Whoever wrote that senetnce has very poor vision, sense of history, logical thinking abilities, understanding of the American political process, aeronautics, observation skills, knowledge of military matters, respect for the reasoning abilities of others or writing ability.

Other than that, they are spot on!!!

194 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:57 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: RussianBear716
Wisdom from my father: Never argue with a crazy person or a drunk.... and don't waste time trying to figure out into which category they fall!
195 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:57 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: NAMMARINE
"the media demands fast answers."

This is true as far as it goes. However, in this particular case, the NTSB was--to some of us--far too quick to offer answers. Especially declaring the crash as an accident before anyone had even arrived on the site to investigate. If they are now withholding some of the evidence, who can blame us for wondering if something is amiss? Some of us, you know, recall too well the tactics of the Clintons--and there are many Clinton holdovers still dirtying up our government offices.

196 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:58 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: dmz
and bush's reasons for propping up the clinton house of cards would be.....?

Good question. The fact remains that the FBI and CIA are still largely in the hands of Clinton holdovers. The Director of the CIA, George Tenant, was appointed by Clinton, and has yet to even be reprimanded by the White House, even though the CIA was caught completely off-guard by the September 11 attack.

So you raise a good question. Why don't you write the White House and ask them? Because I sure don't know why they're letting their alleged political opponents continue to run the government.

197 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:59 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: First Conservative
Good call: The government is afraid to admitt the increased security failed here, especially if evidence exists that it was a terrorist act(act of war).

The government is trying to maintain public tranquility to get everyone behaving normally again, most notably for the very busy Thanksgiving Holiday period.

They further want holiday spending to be upbeat to inspire the economy, thus maintain the propaganda that has worked in the past.
198 posted on 11/16/2001 1:26:59 PM PST by Soul Citizen
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To: callisto
FBI Sitting on Flt. 587 Videotape
'Composite=plastic fiber'

??What could a laborer, mechanic, etc., with a 'razor-knife' or pocket 'Drimmel' type 'rotor-cutter' do to a plastic aircraft tail seam??
:-(

199 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:00 PM PST by maestro
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To: callisto
It was wind turbulence, and I'm the king of England!
200 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:02 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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