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FBI Sitting on Flt. 587 Videotape
Newsmax ^ | 11.16.01 | Newsmax

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:12 PM PST by callisto

A videotape that could show exactly what happened to American Airlines Flight 587, which crashed three minutes after taking off from New York's JFK airport on Monday, is in the hands of the FBI -- but the bureau has thus far declined to release it.

New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority spokesman Tom Kelly confirmed to the Daily News Friday that the agency has given surveillance videotapes from Cross Bay Blvd. and Marine Parkway bridges to the FBI.

"One tape captures the plane taking off from JFK," the News said.

Cross Bay Blvd. and Marine Parkway traverse Jamaica Bay, where the plane's vertical stabilizer was discovered intact after the crash.

Dozens of eyewitnesses have told media outlets they saw an explosion and/or a fire at the juncture of Flt. 587's wing and fusilage moments before it began to break up, losing its tail first, then both its engines.

Catastrophic engine failure, which was first suspected to have caused the explosion, was ruled out Tuesday after NTSB investigators examined the engines and found no evidence of mechanical failure.

Since discovering the engines were working properly, NTSB spokeswoman Marion Blakely -- along with most media outlets -- have quietly dropped references to witness accounts of a midair explosion.

The NTSB now says that wind turbulence from another plane is the most likely cause of the crash. One former jumbo jet veteran pilot was highly skeptical of the turbulence theory.

"If wind turbulence caused that accident, I'll never fly again," Barry Schiff, who flew 747's for TWA, told the New York Post.

But a videotape showing the exact sequence of Flt. 587's break-up could clear up any mystery, showing whether or not the break-up was caused by an explosion or by turbulence.

It's not clear why the FBI has not yet released the MTA video -- or even commented on what it shows. It's also not clear why the Flt. 587 video was not turned over to the NTSB instead of the FBI, which had reportedly adopted a secondary role in the wake of NTSB claims that the crash was an accident.

When an Air France Concorde jetliner crashed after catching fire on takeoff from a rural French airport last year, an amatuer video of the accident was released within 48 hours.

Calls to the FBI's New York office and to MTA spokesman Kelly were not returned by presstime.


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To: Leesylvanian
There's never been any cover-ups in this country.
121 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:44 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: vmatt
"...the plane's flight data recorder, stored in the tail, quit working while the aircraft was still 2,900 feet in the air, "

These devices tend to stop recording data when they become seperated from the airframe.

122 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:44 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: anniegetyourgun
LOL Is it a new rule now that if you dont write to someone first they cant write to you?
123 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:44 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Native American Female Vet
FOS

Actually not, Correctol works wonders.

It's just that I won't accept the shrill cries of the mental midgets here who see everything as a conspiracy. This may seem strange, but that's called paranoia, and that is a disease. Paranoia is not patriotism.

Some FReepers are smart, experienced, logical people. Others are certifyable and should probably not be allowed out in traffic. They want us to believe they are so important that the government is out to get them. That's called delusions of grandour.

By the way..... Want to have some fun? Look at the old posts from these people. Read the doom and gloom they have predicted, and how about 2% of it comes to pass. This is not college, but it is the Big Exam called Life... and 2% is not a passing grade.

One more thing. If some government conspiracy is out to get us, we've been hearing about it for 60 years. I wish the government would drop it, or get better at it, beacuse the suspense is killing me!!!!

125 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:45 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: Ironword
The NTSB gal keeps talking "turbulence" and...

maybe she's mispronouncing "ordnance."

126 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:45 PM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: Yankee
I drink at my club..... don't you?????

Not much of a better crowd, but they make a hell of a martini! :~)

127 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:46 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: All
Let me try this again.

Of course, those of you who believe that the government is covering this up, so that people don't cancel their travel plans and bankrupt the airlines are 100% correct.

If the public thinks that the terrorists struck again, they would stay away from flying in droves.

But.....if they were decieved into thinking that there is a fatal design flaw, or material failure, that remains unresolved, on an entire class of aircraft, that will inspire them all to go flocking to the airports to board these potential deathtraps, to visit Granny, and eat some dried out turkey next week.

Economy saved!

I remain in awe of your powers of reasoning.

128 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:56 PM PST by Yankee
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To: MindBender26
Paranoia is not patriotism.

Fly that flag, and lets not discuss this.
Lets just all put this behind us, and fly American Airlines.
Have a dangerou.....er.....nice flight.

129 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:56 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: MindBender26
"It's just that I won't accept the shrill cries of the mental midgets here who see everything as a conspiracy. This may seem strange, but that's called paranoia, and that is a disease. Paranoia is not patriotism."

That's some rhetoric you're totin' there. Name calling and psychiatric diagnoses... heh heh. Five thousand dead, repeated urgent warnings by the government of impending additional terrorists attacks, now all of a sudden anybody who has an opinion that isn't sanctioned by the FBI or FAA is automatically a kook? Do you realize that, by expending all of the energy and bandwidth attempting to stifle discussion, as you do, that even homeless psychotics and crack addled squeegie guys laugh at you?

130 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:57 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: anniegetyourgun
I guess we still don't know what caused this crash.....

Well, at least we know it wasn't terrorists, right?

131 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:57 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: MindBender26
They want us to believe they are so important that the government is out to get them.

Looked at your tax forms lately?

133 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:57 PM PST by vmatt
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To: Yankee
But.....if they were decieved into thinking that there is a fatal design flaw, or material failure, that remains unresolved, on an entire class of aircraft, that will inspire them all to go flocking to the airports to board these potential deathtraps, to visit Granny, and eat some dried out turkey next week.

Nah. People would think it was just that one plane, and move on. It would be just a fluke. A bad accident. ( Which it may be, but may be not, via the discussions here)

134 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:57 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: MindBender26
You claim a lot of expertise in aviation, not to mention psychiatry. So tell us: Do you now or have you ever worked in the airline industry? Just curious to see if you'll put your cards on the table.
135 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:57 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: callisto
Does anyone know what has happened to the idea that the plane was stalled at the airport for mechanical/and or security problems? I know Fox actually reported they have learned it was a security problem, not mechanical as was first reported. However, I have not seen anything since then on the matter.
136 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:57 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: MindBender26
"One more thing. If some government conspiracy is out to get us, we've been hearing about it for 60 years. I wish the government would drop it, or get better at it, beacuse the suspense is killing me!!!!"

LOL Now that I can agree with!!!

137 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:57 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: All
Does anyone know what has happened to the idea that the plane was stalled at the airport for mechanical/and or security problems? I know Fox actually reported they have learned it was a security problem, not mechanical as was first reported. However, I have not seen anything since then on the matter.
138 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:58 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Blueflag
Very good point. How many of those convenience store camera clips you see on TV are worthwhile for identifying suspects, even when shot from eight feet away?
139 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:58 PM PST by dinodino
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To: aruanan
True, but in OKC the evidence for a cover-up is quite clear if one digs deep enough and long enough.
140 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:58 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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