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Freeper Research on the Anthrax Perp
Various FR Posters | 11/15/01 | Various FR Posters

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:44 PM PST by Alamo-Girl

The perp is here on a student VISA. He is Islamic and Middle Eastern. He may be a member of Al Queda. English is not his primary language, he may be a proficient computer user or coder especially if Al Queda.

He was given anthrax and perhaps more biochems – of various grades. They may have been made in Iraq – they may have been made here. He did not develop them himself. He knows lab procedures.

He is fairly diligent in handling the anthrax, but he is not perfect. He knows Dr. Malik, chairman of the Islamic Society of NJ. He may work with him. He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.

The perp may be from Pakistan and may have sought out Dr. Malik’s help (because he is also from Pakistan) to get employment/access to a nearby university hospital, Robert Wood Johnson University Hospital at Hamilton. Dr Malik is on the staff there. The perp may have used lab facilities in the hospital (either at Hamilton or the main campus or one of its affiliates) to safely handle or prep the different batches of anthrax.

There probably are other people in his cell who may already be in custody - one with Florida license plates and others from Canada.

Several arrests of Pakistani nationals were made in Trenton/Hamilton two weeks ago --some in the Greenwood Village apartments, and some at 1001 N. Olden Street. The N. Olden Street arrests took place after a witness observed a man gingerly placing letters enclosed in a ziploc bag into his car. The car had Florida license plates.

Just after the events of September 11, the FBI arrested Mohammed Pervez, a naturalized U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent. Pervez was a Jersey City roommate of Ali Ayub Kahn and Mohammed Jazweeth Azmath, suspected of being hijackers whose plans were thwarted when their plane was grounded in St. Louis. Pervez, who worked in both Trenton and Newark train stations, was also a roommate of the potential anthrax suspects detained from the Greenwood village apartments in Hamilton.

There may be a chain of infection following the medical route – like there is following the mail route.

In DelRay Beach, Florida – a pharmacist (Gregg Chatterton at Huber Healthmart Drugs) claimed to have talked to Atta and another hijacker when they came into his pharmacy with ailments last August. Mostly, we heard about Atta, who had red hands. But the other hijacker, Marwan Al-Shehhi, had symptoms of inhalation anthrax (cough) that would have required him to visit a doctor in his area. The pharmacist said that a man resembling Al-Shehhi had returned to have a prescription filled, but his name was not found in their records – leading the investigators to think he had used an alias. The pharmacist said the red hands looked like a result from washing with bleach – that it did not look like cutaneous anthrax.

In Chester PA on 11/14/01 - teams of FBI agents complete with hazmat gear and tents, broke down door(s), swabbed and seized evidence at two homes and the city hall. One house was shared by City Health Commissioner Irshad Shaikh and his brother Masood. The other was the home of city accountant Asif Kazi. They are all from Pakistan. Kazi’s wife had a prescription for Cipro. Kazi had been seen dumping a cloudy liquid and handing a silver canister to someone.

Dr. Shaikh PhD. has been the Commissioner of Health since 1994. He received his undergrad and postgraduate diplomas in Community Medicine in Pakistan. He received his Masters and PhD in Public Health from Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He is fellow of the Public Health Leadership Institute (PHLI). PHLI is an executive leadership program of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the University of California at Berkeley. Dr. Shaikh also holds a faculty appointment at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.

Welcome to the Johns Hopkins University Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies"...Sponsored by The Alfred P. Sloan Foundation & The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation..."

Freepers wonder if this Could he be THE Asif Kazi, or is it a very common Pakistani name?

Tests are now being performed for Dr. Gerald Weisfogel who believes he may have had skin anthrax earlier than the mailings. There are three Gerald M. Weisfogel's listed in NJ - Franklin Park, Kendall Park and Metuchen. Dr. Gerald Weisfogel is chief of cardiology at the JFK Medical Center in New Jersey, which is in Edison, New Jersey. Edison is just across the river from New Brunswick. He indicated on GMA that he had Middle Eastern patients.

Kendall Park, Franklin Park, Edison, and Metuchen are all close to each other, going north on Rte. 1. So all the addresses are probably for the same guy: hospital in Edison, offices in Metuchen and either or Franklin Park or Kendall Park, and home in the fourth place

There are significant labs in Piscataway, across the river from New Brunswick, the main campus of RWJ. Robert Wood Johnson has two high-profile microbiology labs in Piscataway -- the CABM(Center forAdvanced Biotechnology and Medicine) and the Waksman Institute. The Waksman Institute is a "microbe farm," producing germ "products" for industry and research.

Metuchen is right up the road to the northeast. (And down the road about 12 miles along Route 1 is the Islamic Society and Franklin Park.)

The perp accidentally infected the lady in New York. He did not go there by subway – he drove in. He may have gone to New York to pick up or deliver the anthrax. The car he used is most likely still contaminated. He may have rolled down a window or opened a door at just the wrong time for Kathy. The perp, may be working for RWJ University Hospital and had a business contact with Kathy’s hospital.

He is a member or attendee of The Islamic Society of Central Jersey. He has written many letters to them; he knows the zip code by heart. Although he gave a different town name on the return address (Franklin Park) – he automatically used the zip code he knew for that area. But the zip code does not go with Franklin Park.

There are probably canceled checks or correspondence at the Islamic Society of NJ that can be matched to his handwriting.

He is a member of Islamic student associations. He may have attended or be in association with a student at ETSU which is near an elementary school named "Greendale" in Abingdon, VA (a tri-state area.) He didn’t grab that name out of the air – neither brook nor dale would be common words to him.

In the alternative, he might have intentionally changed the name of a nearby school "Greenbrook" to "Greendale." The Greenbrook school only goes to the 4th grade.

Another possibility: Greendale and Franklin, WI are right next to each other. The NJ school is Greenbrook School, not Greendale. Could it be some Freudian slip? There are 15,000 Muslims in the area.

The block lettering may indicate that he is a tutor for elementary level students or has (or is undertaking) an engineering or architecture education.

The emphasis on the letters might have been intentional – pointing to ATTA.

If he is Al Queda, he may present himself secular – going to bars, joining clubs, protesting the terrorists, etc.

He may be dead or missing.

Medical anthrax trail - there should also be a star for New Brunswick!

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TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: amerithrax; anthrax; anthraxscarelist; fbi
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To: nevergore
Maybe they think "Richard Jewell" did it.....

It can be heard in staff meeting all over the country, "Now if we can pin this one on Richard Jewell we could kill two birds with one stone. We get the heat off us and we save face in that Atlanta Olymics mess. Not only that, the media will love us. They get vindicated as well."

61 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:50 PM PST by oyez
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To: Nita Nupress
Yeah, well, you know.... I’ve been around. And around, and around.

Any one can guess about any of this stuff.

But to present mere guesses as “fact” is misleading and confusing.

My favorite guess is this....

If the guy loaded the envelopes in a house or apartment, there should be some spilled or leaked anthrax that should infect other people in the vicinity sooner or later. But if he loaded the envelopes in a special science lab, there might not be any spilled anthrax at all.

As to whether or not the anthrax is from here or Iraq, or whether or not the guy is an Arab or an American nutcase, there is not enough information yet.

62 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:51 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Alamo-Girl
Nice work...where there's smoke there's fire.....
63 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:53 PM PST by culpeper
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To: Fred25
But to present mere guesses as “fact” is misleading and confusing.

Where does Alamo-Girl state that this summarization of Freeper research and possible profile of the anthrax terrorist is "fact?" Perhaps I missed it?

64 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:53 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks A-G. Good job as usual. I'm saving this one.
65 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:54 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Fred25
If the guy loaded the envelopes in a house or apartment, there should be some spilled or leaked anthrax that should infect other people in the vicinity sooner or later.

Agreed. I'd certainly think there'd be other contaminations, whether from paralell vectors or other cross-contamination, particularly in or near those known New Jersey locations.

But if he loaded the envelopes in a special science lab, there might not be any spilled anthrax at all.

Indeed, though he/they would require either specialized equipment purpose-designed for biological engineering and efficient chemical processing, or some really clever adaptations of off-the-shelf equipment for such uses- in which case he's also an accomplished machinist, or has a really talented and well-equipped one at his disposal.

And such equipment can't be had just anywhere. Neither are purchases for such equipment generally made with more or less untracable cash, so there'd likely be a paper trail back to the financial sources behind such an effort- in which case it wouldn't be *just one lone crazed gunman labman*.

66 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:55 PM PST by archy
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To: Alamo-Girl
Was there ever any mention of fingerprints, maybe even inside the envelope well before the letter was put in?
67 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:55 PM PST by Lucky
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To: Nita Nupress
Where does Alamo-Girl state that this summarization of Freeper research and possible profile of the anthrax terrorist is "fact?" Perhaps I missed it?

From the very beginning of her highly speculative essay. When she says, “The perp is here on a student VISA.”

She not only doesn’t know who the perp is, she doesn’t know if he/she is here on a “student visa” or not. She states almost all of her speculations as if they are facts.

What she should do is make suggestions based on possible clues. For example....

"Might be here on a student visa. Might be Islamic or Middle Eastern."

But even if she does that, we all know that stuff anyway.

Just because several Arab apartments have been searched, that doesn’t mean the perp is an Arab. She is playing hunches based on the Day 1 suppositions and guesses. There is nothing new here. I’m already guessing the guy is probably an Arab, but I don’t know that for sure.

This part is really stupid....

”He’s been to the doctor’s office at 1542 Kuser Road in Trenton NJ. While there he accidentally infected the accountant next door at Civale Silvestri & Alfieri CPA, 1540 Kuser Road.”

Does she really know he’s been to 1542 AND infected someone next door? That is nonsense.

We Americans see and hear so much news, so much conflicting news, and so much incorrect news, her guesses will go into our subconscious minds, and within a few weeks we won’t be able to remember if we heard this stuff on the news or where we heard it. It’s a bunch of rambling guesses and nonsense that will just confuse people. If, later, any single one thing that she said above turns out to be true, she will claim she predicted the entire outcome.

68 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:57 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Nita Nupress; Peach; gumbo; bvw; Alamo-Girl
Thanks for the transcript.
69 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:03 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Cavalry
Thanks for sharing your views!
70 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:19 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: anymouse
Thank you so much for the kudos, anymouse!!! I'll see what I can dig up on the search!
71 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:19 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mitchell
Thanks for bumping by with the index!
72 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: mombonn
Thank you oh so very much for the kudos (blush!!!) I'm very sure the FBI is aware of Freeper research on this!
73 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jefferson Adams
Thank you so very much! Hugs!!!
74 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: t-shirt
Thank you for the kudos (blush!!!) I'm not familiar with all the projects going on at John Hopkins - but for sure, they have the "biodefense" project linked above...
75 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ez2muz
That judge was pretty amazing! I don't think either judges or juries are in the mood for hoaxers...
76 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
You are WAAAAY too smart to be working for the government.
77 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by nonliberal
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To: Fred25; Alamo-Girl
Easy Gonzo, AG's good people.

Alamo-Girl: Outstanding work as usual. Let me know as this pans out.

78 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:20 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: austingirl
Thank you oh so very much for the kudos!!! I'm ever so curious to find out what the FBI has learned!
79 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: DoughtyOne
I won't be surprised if we hear of an infection or "bust" in Philadelphia! Thank you so much for the kudos!!!
80 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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