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Red Cross donated blood provides DNA information for government databases
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 11/16/01 | Gerard Ryle

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:27 PM PST by dead

The NSW Privacy Commissioner, Chris Puplick, is inquiring into how statistical DNA information extracted from hundreds of blood donors ended up on two State Government databases which have been cited in criminal proceedings.

The databases are housed alongside the Government's DNA crime database at the Health Department's division of analytical laboratories, Lidcombe.

The statistical databases contain only general information about the genetic make-up of the NSW population but the Herald was threatened with a Supreme Court injunction by the Australian Red Cross Blood Service after it asked how the blood was obtained.

The Health Department had initially claimed that it had been given "de-identified expired" samples by the Red Cross, but the Red Cross said this was not true.

The department then retracted its earlier statement and conceded that Division of Analytical Laboratories officials had collected blood from about 500 donors at Red Cross premises in 1989.

The blood was used to establish blood typing and DNA mapping when DNA profiling systems were being established in NSW. One statistical database was compiled in 1989, and a second about 1995, using the same blood. Both databases have been cited in criminal court cases, including that of the convicted backpacker killer Ivan Milat. The department said they were no longer being used, but conceded they still existed.

The issue of whether the donors gave informed consent for the compiling of the databases is understood to be central to Mr Puplick's inquiries.

The Red Cross said that all of the donors whose blood was collected at its centres had given verbal consent.

The department at first said that only "the majority" gave consent, but a spokesman, Wayne Geddes, said later that he believed that all of the donors gave verbal consent.

Mr Puplick said it appeared "unclear what nature of consent" was obtained. No consent forms would appear to have been prepared or signed.

The Red Cross told the Herald that departmental staff discussed with potential donors the intended use of the samples. If the donor consented, blood was gathered in a separate test tube was not bar-coded or marked with any identification, and no record of the donor was kept.

The blood samples were used only to establish statistical DNA information about general population trends and were never placed on or used in connection with any database of convicted offenders or compared with crime scene samples.

Michael Strutt, a spokesman for the prisoners' rights group Justice Action, said there appeared to be no NSW legislation to ensure anonymity of the samples or to stop extracted DNA data being sold to companies.

"The NSW Health Department is unlikely to enjoy the level of trust among blood donors that the Red Cross has.

"In Tonga, Iceland and Estonia the DNA of citizens has been sold by their governments to biotech companies."

The Greens Upper House MP, Lee Rhiannon, said: "The Greens are asking the Health Department to come clean and help protect the role and reputation of the Red Cross."


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To: dead
Good Grief!!!!!!!
21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:16 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: dead
Why can't they get DNA the old fashioned way, extract it from a suspect while in custody, with or without his permission.
22 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:55 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox
Why can't they get DNA the old fashioned way, extract it from a suspect while in custody, with or without his permission.

Oh spare me the violins!

If a suspect wasn’t guilty, what would he be doing in custody?! 8-)

23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:57 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
Why can't they get DNA the old fashioned way, extract it from a suspect while in custody, with or without his permission.

Obviously you did not get my jest. DNA information is now available from a Red Cross database? How inappropriate. The only way they should be able to do a DNA test is when they have they guy in custody. Why should volunteering blood and having it extracted at a bloodbank make everyone a suspect?

24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:15 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: dead; Joe Montana
BTTT...MUD
25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:48 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Joe Montana
Yo?! Joe?! Where ya been, Ol' Man?!

SHEEEESH, Hall of Fame go to yer Head or What?!

Yer EX-FRiend...MUD

26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:48 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Slyfox
Actually I was joking back, but my point was that if DNA is gathered from a suspect, all records of his DNA should be destroyed if the suspect is not convicted.

Suspects in crimes are no more guilty, from a legal perspective, than your average blood donor. (OJ excluded)

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:03 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
The last time I donated blood at the Red Cross, I had to sign an "opt out" form in order for them NOT to do a "genome amplification" on my donated blood.

After I donated blood, I was sorry I did because odds are that the Red Cross "amplified" my genome anyway.

28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:06 PM PST by The Energizer
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To: The Energizer
After I donated blood, I was sorry I did because odds are that the Red Cross "amplified" my genome anyway.

Did you get any taller?

29 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:07 PM PST by dead
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To: Askel5
Bloody bump.
30 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:45 PM PST by CholeraJoe
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To: Askel5
shades of 1984, or rather, 2001.
31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:32 PM PST by ken21
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To: Mudboy Slim; Joe Montana; dead
Rubbertramp doesn't give it away. She sells her plasma. So much for those thousand points of light....What does Gordon Liddy say about suckers?...Red Cross are bloodsuckers.
32 posted on 11/16/2001 2:03:52 PM PST by rubbertramp
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To: dead; Askel5; Syncro
What a crock! I doubt much is safe from gummint datatbases these days.

Thanks for the links Askel, I'll try to peruse them in my spare time. I've been away from FR for 4 days and have lots of catching up to do.

33 posted on 11/18/2001 4:54:31 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
bump!
34 posted on 11/19/2001 6:30:39 AM PST by dead
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