"But all these [different peoples who had come to Canaan] were additions, sprigs grafted onto the parent tree...And that parent tree was Canaanite...[The Arab invaders of the 7th century A.D.] made Moslem converts of the natives, settled down as residents, and intermarried with them, with the result that all are now so completely Arabized that we cannot tell where the Canaanites leave off and the Arabs begin." Illene Beatty, "Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan."
FALSE. Canaanites disappear from history completely in the last millenium B.C. period. Their culture, social structures, genealogical continuity is lost. Therefore, it is wholly gratuitous and simplistic to assert a tie between the Canaanites, the Israelites, Arabs, Greek and Latin Christians (non Arab) who came with the Roman and Byzantine conquests, etc. Moroever it is false to say Canaanite was the "parent tree". Indeed from the "Table of Nations" the Canaanites come from HAM and not SHEM which is the origin of the Arabs and Jews (Gen. 10:6). This sort of sloppy inference is a small indication of what this group engages in.
"Palestine became a predominately Arab and Islamic country by the end of the seventh century. Almost immediately thereafter its boundaries and its characteristics - including its name in Arabic, Filastin - became known to the entire Islamic world, as much for its fertility and beauty as for its religious significance
I'm amazed. Here "Jews for Justice" presumes to speak about Justice but instead they completely gloss over the utter devastation of the Arab Islamic Jihad over indigenous Christian (non-Arab) and Jewish communities. Only a bunch like this could turn the Jihad into a virtue. Here is how the Jihad started:
The greatest lie of the 20th and 21st century is the myth of the indigenous "Palestinians" (Arabs). The Arab Islamics began the
rape, pillaging, massacres, forced conversions, head taxes, etc. with the prophet Mohammed, in the Arabian peninsula, as he
massacred 600-900 Jewish men in cold-blood and his men raping and enslaving the women and children (Banu Qurayza,
627). This Jihad would extend throughout the Arabian peninsula (where under the second caliph in 640 the Jews and Christians were expelled from the peninsula), North Africa, Mesopotamia, Armenia, Persia, Syria, Palestine, South Spain before finally being stopped at Narbonne (720) and Poitiers (732). In the space of 100 years the Arab Islamics had massacred, conquered, dhimmiized, pillaged, whole INDIGENOUS Christian (non Arab) and Jewish communities. Most of the time this would consist of massacring, enslaving, and ethnically cleansing whole Christian and Jewish populations. Bat Ye'or in, The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam (1996), at pp. 44ff. describes this blight on long-standing Christian and Jewish communities:
After the death of the Prophet, the caliph Abu Bakr organized the invasion of Syria which Mohammed had
already envisaged. He gathered tribes from the Hijaz, Najd, and Yemen and advised Abu Ubayda, in charge of
operations in the Golan (Palestine), to plunder the countryside but, due to a lack of adequate weaponry, to refrain
from attacking towns.2 Consequently, the whole Gaza region up to Cesarea was sacked and devastated in the
campaign of 634. Four thousand Jewish, Christian, and Samaritan peasants who defended their land were
massacred. The villages of the Negev were pillaged by Amr b. al-As, while the Arabs overran the countryside,
cut communications, and made roads perilous. Towns such as Jerusalem, Gaza, Jaffa, Cesarea, Nablus, and Beth
Shean were isolated and closed their gates (note: these towns had a majority Jewish/Christian (non Arab)
populations). In his sermon on Christmas Day 634, the patriarch of Jerusalem, Sophronius, lamented over the
impossibility of going on pilgrimage to Bethlehem as was the custom, because the Christians were forcibly kept in
Jerusalem:"not detained by tangible bonds, but chained and nailed by fear of the Saracens [Arab Islamics],"
whose "savage, barbarous and bloody sword" kept them locked up in the town.3
In Syria...Sophronius, in his sermon on the Day of Epiphany 636, bewailed the destruction of churches and
monasteries, the sacked towns, the fields laid waste, the villages burned down by the nomads who were
overrunning the country. In a letter the same year to Sergius, patriarch of Constantinople, he mentions the ravages
wrought by the Arabs.4 Thousands of people perished in 639, victims of the famine and plague that resulted from
these destructions.....
Country areas, particularly the plains and valleys populated with hamlets and villages, were ravaged by Bedouins
who set fire to crops, massacred and carried off the peasantry and their cattle, and left nothing but ruins.
Townspeople were in a different position. Protected by their walls, they could defend themselves or negotiate the
conditions of their surrender on payment of tribute to the Bedouin chiefs....
In fact, the record of the precise progress of the Arab conquests constituted a basic principle in the earliest
stages of Muslim law, since it fixed not only the nature and taxation of the land, but also the legislation applicable
to its indigenous inhabitants. Although some disparities appeared in respect of the towns, the majority of the
villages fell into the category of conquest without a treaty. According to the strategy of jihad, the absence of a
treaty allowed the massacre or enslavement of the conquered population and the division of their property....
Helped by local Arab support---particularly active in the central region and the lower Euphrates---and by troop
reinforcements sent from Arabia, Muslims extended their raids on the countryside and villages to the south and
center of Iraq around Mada'in (Ctesiphon).......they invaded the Sawad (Babylonia), the villages near the Tigris
and Euphrates....These raids were supported by Umar who sent reinforcements from Medina. The monasteries
were pillaged, the monks killed, and Monophysite [Christian] Arabs massacred, enslaved, or Islamicized by
force; in Elam the population was also decimated, and in Susa their notables were put to the sword....
Palestine was laid waste and plundered.13 The Arabs moved into Cilicia, taking inhabitants with them into
captivity. Mu'awiya sent Habib b. Maslama to Armenia....On his orders, the population of Euchaita [Jews and
non-Arab, i.e., Armenian Christians] (on the river Halys) was put to the sword; those who escaped were all taken
into slavery.14 According to the Armenian chroniclers, the Arabs, after they decimated the populations in Assyria
and forced large numbers of people to embrace Islam, "entered the district of Daron [south-west of lake Van]
which they sacked, shedding rivers of blood. They exacted tribute and forced the women and children to be
handed over to them."15 In 642 they took the town of Dvin and annihilated the population [mainly Assyrian
Christians] by the sword. Then "the Ishmaelites returned by the route whence they had come, carrying off in their
wake a multitude of captives to the number of thirty-five thousand."16
The following year, according to the same chronicler, the Arabs again invaded Armenia, "wreaking havoc, ruin,
and slavery."17 ....
In North Africa, the Arabs took thousands of captives and accumulated a large stock of booty...."the Muslims
set to work overrunning and laying waste the open country."19 Tripoli was ransacked in 643; Carthage was
entirely razed to the ground and most of its inhabitants were killed [majority Christian]. The Arabs put the
Maghreb to fire and sword, and it took them more than a century to restore peace there by crushing the Berber
resistance....
The wars continued on land and sea with Mu'awiya's successors. Arab troops wrought havoc in Anatolia by
numerous incursions; churches were desecrated and burned down; all the inhabitants of Pergamum, Sardes, and
other towns were led into captivity. The Greek towns of Gangres and Nicae were destroyed. Contemporary
Christian chronicles mention entire regions ravaged, villages razed to the ground, towns burned, pillaged and
destroyed, while entire populations were enslaved.
As has been mentioned, town populations were not always spared. They often suffered massacre or slavery,
always accompanied by deportations. This was the fate of the Christians and Jews of Aleppo, Antioch,
Ctesiphon, Euchaita, Constantia, Pathos (Cyprus), Pergamum, Sardes, Germanicea (Marash), and
Samosata---to cite but a few examples. In the course of the Umayyads' last attempt to take Constantinople
(717), the Arab army commanded by Maslama carried out a pincer movement by land and sea and laid waste the
whole region around the capital.
During the course of Islamic hegemony Bedouins and other Arabs would immigrate to these ethnically cleansed and pillaged, non Arab areas and the remaining indigenous populations would be put in a dhimmi state with periodic sacking, persecution and massacring of the remaining Christian and Jewish populations or these peoples would flee to other areas.
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Come on puppy we're waiting for your response. That above response was just a snippet of the lies which "Jews for Justice" engages in.
If you can't live in the 21st century, try living in the 20th at least. OK? I have no idea whether your rant is true or not. I do know that it is totally irrelevant (and so consequently I didn't read it). Anyone who dredges up stuff from 1500 years ago has a serious problem getting his priorities straight.
Now that you have totally demolished their first piece of nonsense when can we expect part 2
Maybe a group effort in a separate thread is in order and we can recruit those of the IFC who have enough background knowledge to contribute and fill the gaps other's might have.
So while I'm on about gaps - I have been trying to get a handle on Mamalukes & Selujics (sp? for both) - can anyone reading this point me in the right direction. Google has got me nowhere of substance.