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To: Anamensis
What inalienable rights do either Israelis or Palestinians have? And who gave them those rights? And where?

Like I said, someone of your viewpoint should allege that they are United States citizens or Christian. If you are neither, it is perhaps an understandable misunderstanding on your part.

258 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:34 PM PST by Elihu Burritt
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To: Elihu Burritt
Like I said, someone of your viewpoint should allege that they are United States citizens or Christian. If you are neither, it is perhaps an understandable misunderstanding on your part.

Your response is a little garbled but I'll try to address it anyway: I am a US citizen (born in Michigan) and I notice that WE have inalienable rights because we declared it to be so and instituted a government to protect said rights. I do not agree, however, that the rights are "self-evident" (for if they were, why did it take tens of thousands of years for humanity to produce a government that finally recognized them?) and I don't believe they are given by a god because I'm an atheist and even if I weren't, no one has ever yet produced a Biblical verse saying anything like "I, God, confer upon humans the right to live. I myself cannot even violate that right." Therefore, the right to live exists only among people who have declared it to be so and can back it up with force. Do either the Jews or the Muslims have this right? (The Israelis might, I don't know.)

375 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:52 PM PST by Anamensis
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