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If God did not let this happen as some have asserted then how can he be the God of the Bible? What else happens on this earth that he has no control over? Is the free will of man greater than the power of God? The debate is not whether God let it happen or not. The debate can only be; has God caused it to happen or has it happened only as a result of the free will of man and He has chosen not to restrain that will?

If evil people have more power than God and if their will is greater than God's will then we are all in big trouble. God either caused this or he allowed this. Otherwise we may as well worship the devil as he is obviously more powerful. If God has lost control then he did not let this happen. If he is still in control then we had better look for some answers. We can start by looking at ourselves. Perhaps we are not as righteous as we think we are.

America's Other Jesus

Ray, God is not some cosmic puppet-master controlling everything that goes on here on earth. He is in control of His plans and purposes, but man's sin is not able to change that.

Tell me, which God is bigger? The one Who has to manipulate all events on earth including evil ones to make His plan work, or One Who allows man to make his own decisions to follow Him and righteousness or follow satan and evil, and yet still make His plan work regardless of man's sin? God is bigger than our sin and does'nt have to kill us or punish us to keep His eternal plan on track. He controls the times and the seasons and everything will happen just as He says it will, regardless of how wicked man-kind gets. After all, He's God!!!!

Post # 30 is right on. There is no mention of choice in the Bible. This is something we hang on to to make us feel better. Some vessles are made for destruction. Did Judas have a choice, or was he chosen to do the deed from the foundation of the earth? Did Lazarus have the choice to stay in the grave? If I was saved from the foundation, and Jesus was crcified from the foundation, we have very little to say about it. My God is an all powerfull God and has overcome the world. I doubt if I could change one thing in His plan. Sept 11th happened because it was time to happen. We aren't promised 1 more hour. If we have the choice to repent, then Revelation doesn't have to happen, but you know it will, because God said it will. We will not repent, as you can see on this website, and we are suposed to be the "good" guys. God judges souls when they die, but can judge a country anytime He chooses. God doesn't drape Himself in the American flag. There isn't even a garauntee the USA will even be a factor in the end times.

Satan is not more powerful than God. God is both just, and merciful, righteous, AND extremely patient. Satan rules this earth for a period because of man's sin. God could have ended it all in the Garden of Eden.. no more man, failed experiment. I'm certain Satan didn't plan on billions more human beings. Sin brings death, and Satan wanted to destroy God's creation up front. God had other plans, and has allowed the world to continue, so that many others may be adopted into his family.

Reference my previous post.

As for your "other Jesus" post, the Bible said there would be those imposters too, and so it has come to pass. Satan himself was described as an "Angel of Light". The REAL Jesus is known only though God's Word, the Bible. He exists today, and is coming again. Don't worship the counterfeit!

Is the free will of man greater than the power of God?

Of course not. That's not the point. Quite obviously, God, for whatever reason in His infinite wisdom, withholds His own will and lets humans make the earthly choices between good and evil in their daily lives.

If He was doing otherwise, there would be no evil in the world, since we would all be mindless pre-programmed robots who would know no different.

Faith and indeed Christianity itself are meaningless without human free will.