Posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:39 PM PST by notyourregularhandle
Finally, The Truth on National TV...
Billy Graham's daughter was being interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" And Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
She said "I believe that God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman that He is, I believe that He has calmly backed out.
How can we expect God to Give us His blessing and His protection if we demand that He leave us alone?"
I know there's been a lot of an email going around in regard to 9/11/01, but this really makes you think. If you don't have time, at least skim through it, but the bottom line is something to think about....
In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
Let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body was found recently) complained she didn't want any prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then, someone said you better not read the Bible in school... the Bible that says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said, OK.
Then, Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide) and we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we said OK.
Then, someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. And the school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (There's big difference between disciplining and touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.) And we said, OK.
Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said, OK.
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we said, OK.
Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. And agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good. And then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. And we said, OK.
And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then stepped further still by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK; they're entitled to their free speech.
And then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. And let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, and nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
"Dear God, Why didn't you save the little girl killed in her classroom? " Sincerely, Concerned Student... AND THE REPLY "Dear Concerned Student, I am not allowed in schools". Sincerely, God.
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.
Funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided they do not have to believe, think, say, or do anything the Bible says.
Funny how someone can say "I believe in God" but still follow Satan who, by the way, also "believes" in God.
Funny how we are quick to judge but not to be judged.
Funny how you can send a thousand 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.
Funny how the lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene pass freely through cyberspace, but the public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.
Funny how someone can be so fired up for Christ on Sunday, but be an invisible Christian the rest of the week.
Are you laughing?
Funny how when you go to forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it to them. Funny how I can be more worried about what other people think of me than what God thinks of me.
Are you thinking?
Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it....no one will know that you did. But, if you discard this thought process, then don't sit back and complain about what a bad shape the world is in!
Conversely, I do not believe that God kills innocent people just to "teach us a lesson." God can make good come out of evil, but he will never cause the evil himself.
It is indeed ironic that so many who will not acknowledge or respect God will immediately blame Him for every evil in this world. September 11 was God's fault? Any objective person can see that such twisted logic comes only from the Liar himself, the author of evil, Satan.
God is GOOD! Satan is evil! God grants true FREEDOM, while Satan offers men and women Taliban-like bondage. Unfortunately, both good and evil people on this earth have the same freedom to sin, and that sin has consequences that effects both innocents and the wicked.
Yeah you're right, the people of America are very very righteous and shouldn't be concerned about their own actions...(are you sure you're conservative???) ...are you sure YOU aren't a born-again type???
If you are a resident of Jerusalem, it is, why did God let AD 638 happen?
OK, Bible Thumpers. Hows that.
Probably a lot more than you. Read some of my stuff on this forum over the years.
Reference my previous post.
As for your "other Jesus" post, the Bible said there would be those imposters too, and so it has come to pass. Satan himself was described as an "Angel of Light". The REAL Jesus is known only though God's Word, the Bible. He exists today, and is coming again. Don't worship the counterfeit!
Of course not. That's not the point. Quite obviously, God, for whatever reason in His infinite wisdom, withholds His own will and lets humans make the earthly choices between good and evil in their daily lives.
If He was doing otherwise, there would be no evil in the world, since we would all be mindless pre-programmed robots who would know no different.
Faith and indeed Christianity itself are meaningless without human free will.
Yeah, and then barf.
Do humans (including terrorists) have free will, or not? Can you God's-gonna-abandon-us-if-we-don't-make-kids-pray-in-school types make up your mind one way or the other and let us know? Thanks.
Amen.
Should have known.
I learned that stuff in grade school.
Apparently not; you just HEARD it in grade school
You take Religion way too seriously in my opinion.
One should be careful so as not to place a stumblingblock in the path of another. You bandy the word "religion" around as if it has little meaning for you; something akin to "science" maybe. Why would you desire to begrudge another man his faith? Jealousy? Pride? How do you see yourself in the overall scheme of things? Master of all you survey? We are all slaves to something; I choose God as my master; who or what is yours?
Religion is not an end all be all. It cannot answer every question in life. Use Religion as a compass not as answer book for things you or anyone cannot comprehend.
That word religion again. Maybe if you substitute the word faith where you use the word religion, it might take on more meaning for you. Then again, maybe not. The Bible tells us on many occasions that believers walk by faith, not by sight. Sounds like a formula for getting from one place to another. It's not an easy walk because there are many hazards and pitfalls along the way as you well know. But, by holding fast to the faith, believers will arrive; safe and sound.
Anyway, why did God let 9/11 happen? Beats me. I trust Him to do the right thing, EVERY time. I have faith that He knows what He is doing and that some day I will understand the depths of His mind. But not now, this corrupt temple could not contain it. Could 9/11 be a warning for us as a nation straying off the straight and narrow? Sure, but is it? It has caused many more in this country to be in the pews on Sunday. That's a good thing. We have a man of faith leading our country right now. THAT'S a good thing. It has caused me to stay up way past my bedtime in a feeble effort to try to bring someone to a better understanding of the faith and the faithful. That's very likely a good thing for me, and I'm hoping you, too.
May God bless you and keep you,
FGS
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