Posted on 11/16/2001 1:14:39 PM PST by notyourregularhandle
Know what?
FGS
We are in no position to know God's thoughts. On the other hand, I think we need to give Him thanks for protecting us from the bigger evil that was planned for us.
God allowed WWII to happen, but he saw to it that we won. The weather clearing at the last minute making D-Day possible, the fog lifted in the Ardennes allowing air support for our guys at the most critical time in the attack. Development of the A-Bomb just in time to save us from having to invade Japan. All of this was God's protection, IMHO.
While I believe that God uses evil people to punish nations, I firmly believe that any discussion of what God allowed to happen, needs to also look at what He kept from happening. Personally, I thank Him every day for stopping the bulk of the 9-11 attack.
A Godless man to be sure. See what can happen when a country boots God out. We as a country got exactly what we deserved in WJC; no more, no less.
FGS
Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. And agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good. And then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. And we said, OK.
Hugh Hefner started Playboy over 40 years before we ever heard of Monica Lewinsky.
And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then stepped further still by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK; they're entitled to their free speech.
Other than a few NAMBLA wackos out there, there isn't exactly a groundswell of support for child pornography. I must have missed the memo where "we said OK; they're entitled to their free speech." Finally, if you say that God caused September 11 to happen as a way of punishing us for our sins, you're saying that Osama Bin Laden is an agent of God. That's pretty sick, if you ask me.
Nothwithstanding your nitpicking the small stuff, you missed the side of the barn. "Why did God LET" doesn't say God MADE... Anyway, His thoughts are higher than our thoughts and all you really need to worry about is will He do right by you. Do you trust Him to deal with you in a fashion you may not understand?
FGS
God was also supporting the Germans and Japanese from their point of view?
But they lost. How confusing.
I know that many here, and other places love to claim that it is beause we somehow are ALL bad, horrible people, who don't pray and / or love GOD . If GOD woud have saved Sodom, if 10 or less GOOD people could be found, then WHY , when there are SO many GOD fearing, and GOD loving people in the USA, would HE have abandoned us on 9 / 11 /01 ?
It would be far, far better and wiser, to stop this self hatred and condemnation of others for not being " good " enough.
Matthew 5:44-45: But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
I don't care if it's Clinton or Falwell saying that America brought this on herself, it's still garbage.
Hey DEAD! if you don't think it's worth reading, then don't read it...heard of that?
Hey NOTYOURREGULARHANDLE! Who asked you to read my response? Huh? Who asked ya?
Can you God's-gonna-abandon-us-if-we-don't-make-kids-pray-in-school types make up your mind one way or the other and let us know?
Know what?
Maybe if you read both of his sentences in the paragraph, instead of just one, you might have been able to rub enough brain cells together and answer his question. The other sentence was Do humans (including terrorists) have free will, or not?
FREE WILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Correct. But he will allow it to happen. Read the book of Job.
Better to keep ones' mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.
Of all the foolish questions I've seen on this thread, this one is amongst the leaders. God has given every man free agency, PERIOD! Every man gets to choose who he wants to follow. Consider this: In which DIRECTION are your thoughts and actions taking you? Towards Him or away from Him? And your choice is?
FGS
Realism tempered by a God derived idealism has served me well since I grew up...I'm 44 now...so that was about say 8 years ago!!
regards
Now, that wasn't so hard, was it?
FGS
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