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McCain Trying To Kill Armed Pilots Amendment
E-mail from Gun Owners of America ^ | 11/14/01 | Gun Owners of America

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:13 PM PST by AStack75

Sen. John McCain Trying to Kill the Armed Pilots Provision -- Tell him to renounce his anti-gun ways

Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org

(Wednesday, November 14, 2001) -- Gun Owners of America warned you last month about Sen. John McCain of Arizona who was trying to kill the armed pilots amendment. He failed then, but now he's at it again.

As you know, both houses of Congress passed airline safety legislation with an armed pilots amendment. Under normal circumstances -- when both houses agree in principle on an issue -- that guarantees that the provision will remain in the final version of the bill. Unfortunately, Sen. McCain is on the conference committee which is tasked with ironing out the differences between the two versions, and he is reportedly trying to strip out the armed pilots language.

It is imperative that EVERYBODY get in touch with Sen. John McCain. Normally, GOA does not encourage people to contact legislators from other states. It only makes sense to lobby the congressmen that represent you. But in this case, it is appropriate for you to contact McCain. Even if he tells you that he doesn't answer mail from other states, remember one thing: John McCain is a Presidential candidate. He has national aspirations, and that means he wants to represent you no matter where you live.

ACTION: Please use the pre-written letter below to help direct your comments to Sen. McCain. You can contact him at:

Phone: 202-224-2235 Fax: 202-228-2862 E-mail: john_mccain@mccain.senate.gov

----- Pre-written message -----

Dear Sen. McCain:

Gun Owners of America tells me that you are up to your anti-gun tricks again. You've introduced legislation to ban private gun sales at gun shows unless the gun buyer is willing to submit to a background registration check. You have introduced Incumbent Protection legislation to punish groups like GOA for criticizing candidates before an election.

Now I hear that you are trying to neutralize the armed pilots amendment in the aviation security act. Shame! Guns are the best way for pilots to defend their planes, crews and passengers. If we are to trust pilots with our lives while aboard, why should we not trust them to utilize the best tool available to prevent hijackings?

It has been reported that you would rather have pilots armed with stun guns. Are you serious? Stun guns require the attacker to be right on top of you before you can use them. And tasers, which launch a remote probe up to 15 feet, can be thwarted by heavy clothing. So if the pilot misses on the first shot at a distance of 15 feet, the pilot is dead.

Please don't push any such "Dead Pilots" amendment as a defense against terrorists. If stun guns and tasers are so effective, then why don't cops around the country trade in their guns for these items?

Make no mistake, the pilots themselves want to defend themselves with real guns. At least four local pilot unions have passed resolutions around the country stating they will strike if they are not allowed to defend their planes and passengers with firearms. You can read about this for yourself at http://www.gunowners.org/op0142.htm on the web.

I hope you will not try to thwart the will of the Congress. Both houses have passed sensible air safety provisions that would permit pilots to arm themselves for our common defense against terrorism. That language deserves to go to the President for his signature.

Sincerely,

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If you are a pilot, or if you know a pilot, please take a look at the above-mentioned resolution which has been passed by several local unions. The resolution states that pilots will refuse to fly unless they are able to carry firearms into the cockpits of their planes.

It has been passed by several ALPA Councils, and is being considered across the nation by numerous Councils at both ALPA (Air Line Pilots Association) and APA (the Allied Pilots Association). It has passed at United's Los Angeles Council, at Alaska's Seattle Council, at Delta's Cincinnati Council, and at a Continental/Express Council in Houston.

If you have any further questions, or any election results relating to other councils, please contact United Airlines Capt. Bob Giuda at giuda.family@getglobal.net via e-mail. Giuda, who is also a New Hampshire state representative, has been spearheading the efforts to get this resolution passed by local pilot unions.

************** Please do not reply directly to this message, as your reply will bounce back as undeliverable.

To subscribe to free, low-volume GOA alerts, go to http://www.gunowners.org/ean.htm on the web. Change of e-mail address may also be made at that location.

To unsubscribe send a message to gunowners_members@mailmanager.net with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.

Problems, questions or comments? The main GOA e-mail address goamail@gunowners.org is at your disposal. Please do not add that address to distribution lists sending more than ten messages per week or lists associated with issues other than gun rights.


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To: AStack75
McCain Trying To Kill Armed Pilots Amendment

It should read:

McCain Trying To Kill Unarmed Pilots

I though the citizens of Arizona were going to recall McCain. What happend?

21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:45 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: William Tell
Maybe John McCain doesn't want to arm pilots, because he prefers a less radical approach; like having the Air Force shoot passenger planes out of the sky.
22 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:01 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: DoughtyOne
I'd guess it had more to do with him being anti-guns, although in fairness I'm not sure what his views on them are.


Google list on McCain-Lieberman bill - Free Republic...read and learn, grasshopper!

23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:04 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: VOA
HMMMMMMMMM!!!!
24 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:04 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: dittomom; Cyber Liberty; Slip18; uglybiker; Kate_Malloy
SPOOT to McCain's head!
25 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:04 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
Thanks. I'd forgotten about that. To tell the truth, this doesn't surprise me at all. The guy's a democrat. The (R)s should dump him.
26 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:26 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: schmelvin
Maybe John McCain doesn't want to arm pilots, because he prefers a less radical approach; like having the Air Force shoot passenger planes out of the sky.

Excellent point!

27 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:27 PM PST by AStack75
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To: AStack75
It is sad to see a former warrior for our country descend into blithering idiocy.

Will someone please have McCainiac commited?

28 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:27 PM PST by LibKill
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To: Z-28
McCain is an idiot...he is as bad to me as clinton and that is hard for me to say.
29 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:28 PM PST by nancetc
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To: okie_tech
What good does it do to have locked and barred cockpit doors if they just open then up to play Rambo?

Pilots should be armed, for the sole and exclusive purpose of protecting the cockpit. One armed flight officer should remain in the cockpit at all times, and any flight officer leaving the cockpit should leave his sidearm there (guarded by the other flight officer).

If a flight officer gets jumped while in the cabin, the other flight officer should batton down the hatches and land the plane as quickly and safely as possible. Even if hijackers start killing passengers, the flight officers should not attempt armed intervension--rather, they should focus on the cockpit. Losing 300 people on a plane is bad, but is nowhere near as bad as losing 3,000 people on the ground.

30 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:28 PM PST by supercat
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To: real saxophonist
Way I read the headline: 'McCain Trying to Kill Armed Pilots'

I wish he'd try it, in a direct confrontation.

31 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:28 PM PST by supercat
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To: okie_tech
Sorry, but I don't want pilots armed

Loads of people didn't want us to crank out 7000 nukes either. They could never quite grasp the meaning of the word deterrent.

32 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:29 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: AStack75
McCain is a piece of garbage and is becoming less and less relevant, day by day.
33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:29 PM PST by jackbill
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To: AStack75
bump
34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:29 PM PST by D. Miles
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To: AStack75
bump
35 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:39 PM PST by D. Miles
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To: DoughtyOne
The guy's a democrat. The (R)s should dump him.

DON'T get me started... **sour grin**

36 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:44 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: AStack75
Call the airlines and ask rates times etc. for a trip. Then when the agent is ready to book you ask if the cockpit crew is armed. When she says NO, tell her that you will not fly on a plane with an unarmed cockpit crew.

A few thousand calls like that and the airlines will demand that the pilots be armed.

I will not fly on a plane if the cockpit crew is unarmed and suggest that no one else do it either. It isn't safe and there is no reason these people are unarmed.

Pilots should strike until they get the right to fly armed. About three days of no air traffic and this crap would end.

37 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:48 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: LibKill
As a fellow former Marine, you should know, there are warriors, and there are... Yeah, his office was a cockpit, and he was a POW (no comment), but the true nature of the man comes out now.
38 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:48 PM PST by real saxophonist
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To: okie_tech
Sorry, but I don't want pilots armed. I want them locked in an impregnable cockpit landing the plane if there is an incident. I want armed marshals outside the cockpit dealing with problems.

There will never be amarshal on every plane. There will be a pilot on every plane. The pilots need to be armed.

39 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:50 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: AStack75
McCain really does despise the "little guy". I hate to say this about a vet, especially one that suffered what he suffered, but he really is fast cementing the notion that he really is an SOB from "a way back"!
40 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:51 PM PST by Aedammair
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