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McCain Trying To Kill Armed Pilots Amendment
E-mail from Gun Owners of America ^ | 11/14/01 | Gun Owners of America

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:13 PM PST by AStack75

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I personally don't feel they wording GOA used to talk to McCain is an effective way to communicate. But I agree with the message they are trying to get across.
1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:13 PM PST by AStack75
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2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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Way I read the headline: 'McCain Trying to Kill Armed Pilots'
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:14 PM PST by real saxophonist
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McCain is an idiot; he is also allowing thousands of potential terrorists from many countries to continue to walk into the U.S. and Arizona every day across the Mexico border in Arizona's remote backcountry.

http://laser.to/border

4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:15 PM PST by Z-28
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McCainal continues to show America that he may be the most dangerous Anti American Senator in the history of our country!

It has been a rough week for ground war McAinal, and now he is going against the majority of Americans on this. Even liberals for the most part are for the pilots and co pilots carrying weapons.

His land war stand, this stand plus his biased finance reform stand are proof that he hates America and the conservative approach/solution to any problem! He is truly a dangerous man to most Americans with the stands that he takes!

5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:15 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
McLame is a total A**HOLE. Period.
6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:16 PM PST by Jefferson Adams
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In a way, you're right. When we make it clear to terrorists that there are probably no armed people on a plane, they'll be willing to take the chance.

I really doubt we could (or would) put an armed marshall on every flight, which means either armed passengers or armed airline employees.

7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:16 PM PST by sharktrager
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To: DoughtyOne
McCain hate pilots?
8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:16 PM PST by mbb bill
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I'm not sure. I'd guess it had more to do with him being anti-guns, although in fairness I'm not sure what his views on them are.
9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Grampa Dave
Which liberal senators support the pilots carrying guns? I can't think of even one.
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:21 PM PST by onyx
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Wasn't McCain a pilot who was shot down by an enemy of the US? Wasn't he carrying a side arm at the time, as was required of all flight officers? Does McCain think that flight officers on military planes should not have guns?

I thought that our military men were required to avoid capture and that the gun was one of the tools that would help an attacked military pilot. Why would McCain believe that the pilot of a commercial airliner is any less obligated to avoid capture by an enemy of the US?

11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:22 PM PST by William Tell
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Sorry, but I don't want pilots armed. I want them locked in an impregnable cockpit landing the plane if there is an incident. I want armed marshals outside the cockpit dealing with problems. What good does it do to have locked and barred cockpit doors if they just open then up to play Rambo?
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:24 PM PST by okie_tech
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I believe that ChiFi and Babbling Boxer support pilots carrying guns!

One of our gun buffs will have to help here, but I believe that quite a few demonicRats are pro guns re airline pilots. Particuliarly those who like Boxer/Chifi have to fly long distances to get from their homes to DC!

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:24 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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Sorry, but I don't want pilots armed. I want them locked in an impregnable cockpit landing the plane if there is an incident.

Pistols can be issued to every pilot who wants one and is trained in their use in a day. Redesigning the airlines' fleets will take years. QED.

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:25 PM PST by steve-b
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McCain Trying To Kill Armed Pilots Amendment

There are times when I wonder if it was John McCain's un-named twin that did the
time in the horrendous Hanoi Hilton.

I just think there must be a cabal of Senators and CongressCritters in mortal fear that
if they give airline pilots/crew more latitude to arm themselves...pretty soon people will
ONLY fly the "armed airlines".
And maybe their BIGGEST CONTRIBUTORS don't run/own the airlines that WOULD arm their pilots/crew.
15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:36 PM PST by VOA
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McCainal continues to show America that he may be the most dangerous Anti American Senator in the history of our country!

Come on, get real. I'm terribly disappointed and upset with McMarbles, but he is hardly the "most dangerous anti-American senator in the history of our country" nor is he currently "the most dangerous anti-American senator," unless you wish to eliminate Daschole, Hitlery, Boxer, Levin, Biden, Kennedy, Kerry, Sarbanes, and the entirety of the democrat senators.

Better and more accurate for you to state, that McMarbles is the "most anti-Republican, GOP senator in the senate."

McMarbles is NOT anti-American, nor anti-military. John is a spoiled brat; a megalomanical and bitter recalcitrant, who lusts for media face time, indulging himself at every opportunity, particualrly the opportunities he creates.

John will never "get-over" his loss to President Bush. John will never "forgive" GOP voters for rejecting him. He will also never be made to understand "why" we rejected him, after all, the media just "loved" him ---- he is sooo "centrist" and "straight-talking." Garbage. John says what John "knows" the media wants to hear, and damn the GOP voters for not falling in line!

John would be president now, had he run to the right of Bush. Some "maverick."

WE are on the same page, regarding McCain. But your comments are over the top.

16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:37 PM PST by onyx
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To: meandog
Your boy is making you proud again!
17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:37 PM PST by Nov3
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To: Grampa Dave
Regarding chifi, --- that would be wholly hypocritcal of Diane, since she herself carries a concealed weapon, but she vociferously and legislatively, tries to prohibit all other women (and Men) from doing same! The witch is a leading anti-gun nut, right up there with silly Sara Brady.

IF Boxer supports arming the pilots, she had better think again, since most pilots are Republicans and do not "embrace" her commie politics.

18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:37 PM PST by onyx
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okie_tech said: "What good does it do to have locked and barred cockpit doors if they just open then up to play Rambo?"

There is no expectation on my part that the pilots would use the weapons for anything other than preserving life. That would mean landing the plane safely despite the attempts of any hijacker to use the airplane as a missile to kill thousands of people on the ground.

A recent article detailed how it took about ten minutes for people with crowbars to open a gun safe at Sears after a small boy was locked inside it.

I put my faith in people looking after their own interests and not in "one-size-fits-all" solutions. The security doors are an excellent idea and a preliminary version is already installed on all of the nations airliners. Improvements will follow.

The cost of the security doors will undoubtedly be measured in at least many tens of thousands of dollars each. The cost of supplying a firearm to a pilot who already owns one is simply the courage to trust a person to have a gun who is already entrusted with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of airliner and the lives of hundreds of passengers.

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:39 PM PST by William Tell
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To: *bang_list
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20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:39 PM PST by AStack75
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