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American Airlines Flight 587's Crash was NOT AN ACCIDENT!
Sierra Times ^ | November 13, 2001 | Angel Shamaya

Posted on 11/13/2001 10:16:00 AM PST by FresnoDA

American Airlines Flight 587's Crash
was NOT an Accident.
Angel Shamaya
11.13.01


With all the mediawhores and government mouths telling us that American Airlines flight 587's crash (November 12, 2001) was "an accident," one need only look at the known facts -- overlaid with the Law of Probability -- to know that they are lying.

Consider the following known facts:

1) The airplane that went down was an American Airlines jet. American Airlines was used against America on 9/11. It bears the name of our nation, making it, once again, a juicy target for those who hate our country. (The airlines used on 9/11 were American and United -- the latter likely chosen to "prove" that were are not united.)

2) The airplane went down on Veteran's Day, a slap in the face of all Vets -- including those who are painting the Afghanistan desert floor with Taliban blood.

3) The airplane went down during the UN General Assembly meetings between a host of international dignitaries, in the same city where the meetings were taking place, as meetings were underway, in the same city where the largest attacks of 9/11 took place. The likely message received by the leaders of countless nations of the world: "America is losing it."

4) The engine separated from the plane, as did at least one major section of the airfoil structures (tail fin, shown recovered from the waters off of New York, CNN, not long after the crash). Reports from multiple pilots -- including one who witnessed the crash and the engine's separation from the plane -- say they have NEVER known of mere engine failure to make engines and tail fins fly off of airplanes -- in this or any other modern aircraft of its type.

5) The federal government is on record as saying the crash was "an accident" -- "some sort of engine failure" -- long before they had the voice recorder or the flight data recorder (black box, which as of this writing they claim not to have yet recovered) in their possession -- curious and suspicious to a very high degree as it's highly unscientific and unprofessional. This even though they have no records of previous airplane crashes showing such unusual "separation of parts" prior to accidental (mechanical failure) crashes of the same or similar planes as was seen in this "accident." Instead, they specifically, clearly and IMMEDIATELY released statements that break with investigatory patterns involving conclusive statements pointing to causes of crashes.

QUESTION:

What are the chances of all of the above known factors coming into play at the same time?

ANSWER:

So remote as to reside -- on the Scale of Probabilities -- somewhere between:

A) "gross statistical impossibility"

B) "utterly impossible and pointing to a clear, unmistakable cover-up."

Pick one.

I say it's B, for the following primary reasons:

1) The government and the airlines industry was, even as the flames were still burning after the crash of AA597, urging the American people to book flights for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their fears of travel downturns are being realized, and the economic impact of said downturn is being felt painfully throughout the industry and thus the nation. Another terrorist attack just prior to one of the two largest travel weeks in the year could literally put a couple of the airlines out of business for good and have untold negative economic consequences, none of which looks good for our depressed economy.

They want you to keep propping up the American Empire with your federal reserve notes -- backed ONLY by your belief in them -- before they are no longer worth anything.

2) The federal government has been exhibiting -- forever -- a lack of trust and faith in the ability of the American people to handle the truth. They don't think you are "mature enough" to handle the truth. Your great- and great-great- and great-great-great-grandparents couldn't handle the truth about massacres of native American indians, so they painted the genocides as righteous events. Et cetera, throughout our history, right up to Waco where We The People "couldn't handle the truth" that a host of FBI and BATF agents were cold blooded murderers of innocent American women and children, so anything but the truth was made known even though what we were told was way beyond preposterous.

Your government doesn't trust you, believe in you, have faith in you, respect you or your judgement and certainly doesn't believe you can deal with the fact that the latest flying bomb was downed intentionally. But they want you to keep your head in the sand and fly another potential flying bomb in hopes you get to and from your holiday destinations alive. Those who don't, mark my words, will be declared the victims of another "accident." Either that or a "Thanksgiving Airline Disaster" would be used to justify giving some federal agency another $40 billion "to protect you." Or both.

If your government doesn't trust you, isn't honest with you, lies directly to you, hides facts and avoids discussions of known facts while trying to lure more money out of your pocket and safety from your life..., what does that say about their opinion of you?

And what does that mean about your relationship to them?

 

Angel Shamaya is the Founder/Executive Director of KeepAndBearArms.com


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KEYWORDS: flight587
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Comment #81 Removed by Moderator

To: Greenpointer
Long Island is infested with those foul fowl.

Their turds are so voluminous and ubiquitous, that you'd swear that the one's in your picture are goslings.

82 posted on 11/13/2001 11:29:48 AM PST by Yankee
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To: NC Conservative
You want to know about aluminum foil, just go to
http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html
83 posted on 11/13/2001 11:30:18 AM PST by MomwithHope
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To: Lyford
""Engine and pylon separated from aircraft during takeoff. Loss of hydraulics to slats. Aircraft rolled and crashed. Highest single plane death toll in U.S. aviation history. Maintenance-induced damage to the pylon. " - 5/25/79, O'Hare, American Airlines FLIGHT: 191."

Close, but no cigar. Flt#191's engine did race ahead of the wing, then go up and over and behind it. HOWEVER, it did NOT go back, knock off the stabilizer, then turn 180 degrees and crash next to the rest of the debris field. Which seems to be what is being proposed. The flt191 engine ended up back ON THE RUNWAY, while the plane (at rotation when separatin occured) continued to rise, roll, then crash on the otherside of a highway.

84 posted on 11/13/2001 11:30:26 AM PST by cookcounty
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To: Greenpointer
A formation of those bad boys flew over my house just a couple of days ago.
Looked to me like they were all armed with missiles and drop tanks.
I have no doubt they could inflict some serious damage.
Let's Honk!
85 posted on 11/13/2001 11:31:05 AM PST by Hoosier Patriot
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To: tscislaw
Actually, Veteran's Day was the day before.

No, actually Nov.12 is Veterans day...it was recognized on the 11th because the 11th was a Sunday...

It seems terrorists may know more about our holidays than some US citizens

86 posted on 11/13/2001 11:32:39 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: RoughDobermann
Ornithologist?

Is that anything like an Episcopalian?

87 posted on 11/13/2001 11:32:44 AM PST by Yankee
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To: FresnoDA
Angel- your proofs or facts don't stand the test of proofs leading to causality. What you have assembled are data that have correlational or chance relationships to this crash. What you need to show is that each of the facts you assembled have the status of causality. You might be correct on all accounts, but you have not shown that to be the case. Merely listing these various events doesn't give them a "causal" status. If I am not mistaken the tail wing came off first over the water and then the engine fell off over land. That means the engine didn't hit the tail assembly. That means an engine failure didn't cause the tail assembly to drop off. I think a serious look should take place with the ground mechanics for possible sabotage.
88 posted on 11/13/2001 11:34:54 AM PST by arete123
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To: Hoosier Patriot
Here is one of those b*stards looking to make his move now.


89 posted on 11/13/2001 11:34:55 AM PST by Greenpointer
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To: Yankee
I'm sure there are a few... but all of them are flighty...
90 posted on 11/13/2001 11:36:33 AM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: mountaineer
Great threads !! ( By the way, I'm writing this on 11/13. Now, if you add up the digits in this number : 1+1+1+3 , the result is 6 , and we all know whose number that is !
91 posted on 11/13/2001 11:37:30 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: FresnoDA
Another crash theory
92 posted on 11/13/2001 11:38:12 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: lewislynn
It seems terrorists may know more about our holidays than some US citizens

They wouldn't attack us on Sunday. We have a reciprocal arrangement.

Remember, on the first couple of Friday's we didn't bomb during the day.

It's considered bad form to bomb rag-heads when they're all lined up head to butthole, praying to Satan.

93 posted on 11/13/2001 11:39:18 AM PST by Yankee
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To: arete123
See #92
94 posted on 11/13/2001 11:39:39 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: lewislynn
No, actually Nov.12 is Veterans day...

I beg to differ. Veterans day is the 11th. The signifigance results from the ending of World War One. The 11th month, 11th day, 11th hour. Armistice day. Later renamed Veterans day.

95 posted on 11/13/2001 11:40:24 AM PST by Hoosier Patriot
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To: RoughDobermann
That's it, young man. You just march yourself inside and go stand in the corner!

LOL

96 posted on 11/13/2001 11:41:32 AM PST by Yankee
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To: FresnoDA
The state dept. was warned that there would be an attack on 11-11-01 at 11
97 posted on 11/13/2001 11:42:20 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: FresnoDA
Angel Shamaya is the Founder/Executive Director of KeepAndBearArms.com and Tinfoil pinup for November.
99 posted on 11/13/2001 11:44:24 AM PST by verity
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To: FresnoDA
OK FOLKS, IF WE ARE GOING TALK FOIL, LET'S ROLL!!!

ROFLMAO! I get it! I get it!

100 posted on 11/13/2001 11:44:25 AM PST by ReaganGirl
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