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American Airlines Flight 587's Crash was NOT AN ACCIDENT!
Sierra Times ^ | November 13, 2001 | Angel Shamaya

Posted on 11/13/2001 10:16:00 AM PST by FresnoDA

American Airlines Flight 587's Crash
was NOT an Accident.
Angel Shamaya
11.13.01


With all the mediawhores and government mouths telling us that American Airlines flight 587's crash (November 12, 2001) was "an accident," one need only look at the known facts -- overlaid with the Law of Probability -- to know that they are lying.

Consider the following known facts:

1) The airplane that went down was an American Airlines jet. American Airlines was used against America on 9/11. It bears the name of our nation, making it, once again, a juicy target for those who hate our country. (The airlines used on 9/11 were American and United -- the latter likely chosen to "prove" that were are not united.)

2) The airplane went down on Veteran's Day, a slap in the face of all Vets -- including those who are painting the Afghanistan desert floor with Taliban blood.

3) The airplane went down during the UN General Assembly meetings between a host of international dignitaries, in the same city where the meetings were taking place, as meetings were underway, in the same city where the largest attacks of 9/11 took place. The likely message received by the leaders of countless nations of the world: "America is losing it."

4) The engine separated from the plane, as did at least one major section of the airfoil structures (tail fin, shown recovered from the waters off of New York, CNN, not long after the crash). Reports from multiple pilots -- including one who witnessed the crash and the engine's separation from the plane -- say they have NEVER known of mere engine failure to make engines and tail fins fly off of airplanes -- in this or any other modern aircraft of its type.

5) The federal government is on record as saying the crash was "an accident" -- "some sort of engine failure" -- long before they had the voice recorder or the flight data recorder (black box, which as of this writing they claim not to have yet recovered) in their possession -- curious and suspicious to a very high degree as it's highly unscientific and unprofessional. This even though they have no records of previous airplane crashes showing such unusual "separation of parts" prior to accidental (mechanical failure) crashes of the same or similar planes as was seen in this "accident." Instead, they specifically, clearly and IMMEDIATELY released statements that break with investigatory patterns involving conclusive statements pointing to causes of crashes.

QUESTION:

What are the chances of all of the above known factors coming into play at the same time?

ANSWER:

So remote as to reside -- on the Scale of Probabilities -- somewhere between:

A) "gross statistical impossibility"

B) "utterly impossible and pointing to a clear, unmistakable cover-up."

Pick one.

I say it's B, for the following primary reasons:

1) The government and the airlines industry was, even as the flames were still burning after the crash of AA597, urging the American people to book flights for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their fears of travel downturns are being realized, and the economic impact of said downturn is being felt painfully throughout the industry and thus the nation. Another terrorist attack just prior to one of the two largest travel weeks in the year could literally put a couple of the airlines out of business for good and have untold negative economic consequences, none of which looks good for our depressed economy.

They want you to keep propping up the American Empire with your federal reserve notes -- backed ONLY by your belief in them -- before they are no longer worth anything.

2) The federal government has been exhibiting -- forever -- a lack of trust and faith in the ability of the American people to handle the truth. They don't think you are "mature enough" to handle the truth. Your great- and great-great- and great-great-great-grandparents couldn't handle the truth about massacres of native American indians, so they painted the genocides as righteous events. Et cetera, throughout our history, right up to Waco where We The People "couldn't handle the truth" that a host of FBI and BATF agents were cold blooded murderers of innocent American women and children, so anything but the truth was made known even though what we were told was way beyond preposterous.

Your government doesn't trust you, believe in you, have faith in you, respect you or your judgement and certainly doesn't believe you can deal with the fact that the latest flying bomb was downed intentionally. But they want you to keep your head in the sand and fly another potential flying bomb in hopes you get to and from your holiday destinations alive. Those who don't, mark my words, will be declared the victims of another "accident." Either that or a "Thanksgiving Airline Disaster" would be used to justify giving some federal agency another $40 billion "to protect you." Or both.

If your government doesn't trust you, isn't honest with you, lies directly to you, hides facts and avoids discussions of known facts while trying to lure more money out of your pocket and safety from your life..., what does that say about their opinion of you?

And what does that mean about your relationship to them?

 

Angel Shamaya is the Founder/Executive Director of KeepAndBearArms.com


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flight587
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To: GoredInMich
Yes, I remember the engine falling off an A/A airplane well. See my post here.
21 posted on 11/13/2001 10:31:58 AM PST by stylin_geek
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To: okie_tech
But in the past when engines fall off, have pieces of the tail ended up in the bay?

I don't the answer to this, but I do have a theory FWIW. If the severed engine hit the vertical stabilizer over the bay, one would assume that both would fall into the water, right? However, what if the stabilizer had different characteristics than the engine (i.e., weight, inertia, etc.). Wouldn't the much lighter stabilizer have a different track when compared to the engine? Wouldn't it "flutter" somewhat to earth, while the engine would continue toward the direction of flight in an almost ballistic track? If so, this might explain why the two pieces did not fall in the same location, even though they became severed at alomost the same time. Just a theory.

22 posted on 11/13/2001 10:32:41 AM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: FresnoDA
The only way Angel Shamaya can say this conclusively and factually is if Angel Shamaya was one of the terrorists. And "Shamaya" is an Arabic/Muslim-sounding name.

Now what was the phone number to the local FBI office?

23 posted on 11/13/2001 10:32:47 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: FresnoDA

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling" said Chicken Little.

Okay, now I guess that there never were any plane accidents that happened by mechanical failure, they are all victims of terrorist attack. This includes all plane crashes as far back as Kitty Hawk in 1903.

It would be nice to find a Bogey Man under every rock, however I don't think you will. I still firmly believe it was an Alien Nazi Dwarf with an Illudium Q-238 ray gun which brought it down.

Give people a couple of coincidentals and it immediately becomes a plot. By the way, Veterans Day, the real holiday ... is on November 11th, not the 12th!

24 posted on 11/13/2001 10:33:05 AM PST by Colt .45
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To: FresnoDA
This is a ridiculous article.
25 posted on 11/13/2001 10:34:37 AM PST by mlo
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To: FresnoDA
If it was terrorists:

Why that plane instead of one with UN types on it?

Why crash it into a town instead of the UN?

Why make it look like an engine failure and therefore easy for the bad government types to hide from the people?

26 posted on 11/13/2001 10:34:42 AM PST by John Jamieson
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To: FresnoDA
one need only look at the known facts -- overlaid with the Law of Probability -- to know that they are lying.

Consider the following known facts:

LOL!! The first three are "facts" that show us they are lying? Uh, dates in time prove someone is lying? Wow, I will have to use this one in court.

As for the other facts: Every time something happens, whether its a plane crash, a building bombing or whatever, every other person and their brother become engineering experts over night, making themselves look like utter fools. I would guess that most eyewitnesses and "piolets" interviewd have no clue about airplane construction or the physics surrounding it. This combined with "heightened emotions" would probablu cause eyewitnesses to give slightly different stories. Heck, ask any traffic cop and he will tell you that you get different stories from witnesses involving wrecks on the road. Nuff said.

27 posted on 11/13/2001 10:35:04 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: FresnoDA
Not to oversimplify, but the markets yesterday morning thought there was an attack, and dipped. Then, as the "accident" theory got reported more often, the market came back up. It's back up today.
28 posted on 11/13/2001 10:35:05 AM PST by lds23
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To: Saundra Duffy
Thanks Saundra, and don't forget this article.  I smell a rat with this crash in New York.  This is WHY it is imperative that the US Government be held to the fire when it comes to accuracy and accountability.

Friday, June 29, 2001



COMING TOMORROW
TWA Flight 800: The cover-up begins to unravel
Geoff Metcalf interviews producer Jack Cashill on new developments in jet crash


© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com--> © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

On the evening of July 17, 1996, at 8:19 p.m., TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747, took off from Kennedy Airport, bound for Paris, France. At 8:31 p.m., over 730 people watched Flight 800 explode, killing all 230 of the people aboard. Not long afterwards, millions of Americans watched their televisions in stunned horror as search and rescue crews looked for survivors among the flaming debris. Only dead bodies were recovered.

Flight 800 is mostly an ugly memory for people these days. The U.S. government issued an explanation that a fuel tank had somehow exploded. Yet, they flatly denied any evidence existed of foul play, including the possibility that Flight 800 had been blown out of the air by a missile.

All but a few journalists accepted the government's version of events. Few bothered to investigate the numerous eyewitnesses, the radar records and the physical evidence that all suggested a strikingly different explanation of Flight 800's untimely demise. And those few who did question the government's version were made to look like fools or, worse, thrown in jail and prosecuted as criminals for meddling in an official investigation.

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29 posted on 11/13/2001 10:35:30 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
So let me get this right:

1. It is impossible for American Airlines to have an accident because they bear our country's name.

2. If an airplane crashes on the day after veteran's day it MUST be a slap against veterans

3. If an airplane crashes in or near New York when the UN is in session it is a secret message to the gathered world leaders...

4. Engines never malfunction or drop off of airplanes and nothing happens if a flock of geese gets sucked into one.

5. No government official has ever shot his mouth off before knowing the facts so It MUST be part of a cover up.

As far as you statistical predictions unless he has data to show it he shouldn't be making such outlandish statements about statistics. In any American city on any given day there are a thousand coincidences that go unnoticed because no great event happens, but if something ever did happen we would go "Isn't that strange...". Angel Shamya is full of bovine fecal matter.

30 posted on 11/13/2001 10:35:35 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps
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To: FresnoDA
And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
31 posted on 11/13/2001 10:36:45 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: Carlucci
Anybody else ever heard of this stuff. Is it real?

Could it be...cheese?

32 posted on 11/13/2001 10:36:47 AM PST by wysiwyg
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To: FresnoDA
5) The federal government is on record as saying the crash was "an accident" -- "some sort of engine failure"

What else can they say at this point? The plane crashed: If not known to be intentional, then the term accident certainly applies.

Engines separated from plane: I would call that an engine failure, wouldn't you? They're not there to provide forward motion anymore, that is a failure.

I am a staunch defender of questioning ones government, but this piece is really out there. If Miss Shamaya believes this was intentional, what facts does she offer to back up the claim? Answer: None. Good Lord, this happened a little over 24 hours ago, and she thinks that the government should have all the answers 20 minutes after the incident?

33 posted on 11/13/2001 10:37:02 AM PST by Hoosier Patriot
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To: FresnoDA
2) The airplane went down on Veteran's Day, a slap in the face of all Vets -- including those who are painting the Afghanistan desert floor with Taliban blood.

Actually, the plane went down the day after Veteran's Day, which was on Sunday.
35 posted on 11/13/2001 10:37:10 AM PST by aruanan
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To: mlo
Angela Shemaya = Michael Rivero following trans-gender surgery.
36 posted on 11/13/2001 10:38:59 AM PST by a6intruder
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To: mountaineer
See post 29 Mr. Reynolds!!!
37 posted on 11/13/2001 10:40:29 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
This is Tin Foil hat stuff with the exception of the vertical stabilizer. It was removed from the bay intact minus the rudder. I suspect the vertical stabilizer came off first, and the aircraft proceeded to tear itself apart.
38 posted on 11/13/2001 10:41:42 AM PST by wjcsux
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To: Poohbah
Take your complaints to Sierra Times, not me!!! Geezzz!!!!
39 posted on 11/13/2001 10:41:51 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Gumlegs
I am new to FR. Someone tell me what this talk is about tin foil hats and what not.
40 posted on 11/13/2001 10:42:00 AM PST by NC Conservative
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