No I meant babies....since you do not see a problem putting trusing cats into a box, lowering them in water until they can only stick their noses out of the water...probably terrified out of their minds...naturally terrified of water in the first place......I dont' understand why you wouldn't do that with a squirming screaming kid? Why not? No harm ...right?
What fun! Horrible trautmatic experinces can be had by both...and will be felt by both for perhaps a lifetime. No diff.
I think you and I may be kindred spirits, sungirl.