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Catholic Campaign for Human Development?

Posted on 11/12/2001 6:56:17 AM PST by Aunt Polgara

Please forgive this vanity. My parish is again asking for donations to the Campaign for Human Development.

Does anyone know if they ever cleaned up their act, or are they still helping to support pro-abortion groups?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: catholiccampaign; catholiclist; cchd; marxism; socialism
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To: patent
...I am a right wing hyper-archconservative and proud member of the VRWHAC Conspiracy.

O-oh! You are getting awfully close to becoming a Traditional Catholic!

Benedicamus Domino!

21 posted on 11/12/2001 10:22:08 AM PST by Trebics
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To: Trebics
LOL!
22 posted on 11/12/2001 10:52:32 AM PST by ELS
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To: patent; Aunt Polgara; woofer
Paul Likoudis of The Wanderer did a comprehensive and most excellent series of articles (now reprinted together in a little paperback and available in bulk from The Wanderer) from which I excerpted these:

Faith Based Funding ... Hopeful Experiment or Proven Failure?

before posting these related articles:

Connecting People to Politics: The Role of Religious Institutions in the Texas IAF Network

Organizing for Power and Money ... [Blurring the lines between true Christian Charity and decidedly political social action]

The Language of Power ... Politicians "Get It" Even with Faith-Based Organizations Speak in Tongues

Olasky & "Faith-Based" Partnerships

A comprehensive cache of "faith-based" money links can be found here: You Gotta Have Faith

23 posted on 11/12/2001 10:57:19 AM PST by Askel5
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To: EODGUY
Speaking from experience, it is becoming more and more difficult to find a charity that deserves support. We need look no further than the Red Cross or United Way.

Have there been any threads investigating what aid has already gone to the victims' families? I've yet to find a dollar per family amount from either major organization. Smaller groups appear to be more on the ball. The Knights of Columbus, for instance, state that they have already distributed $3,000 to over 300 families. A "Givers and Keepers" listing would inform everybody an idea of which organizations can scrupulously handle large amounts of money.

24 posted on 11/12/2001 10:58:24 AM PST by Dumb_Ox
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To: Romulus
That is so cool.
25 posted on 11/12/2001 11:01:54 AM PST by Askel5
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To: All
"Organizing for Money ... Blurring the Lines" is also by Likoudis and part of the Wanderer series.
26 posted on 11/12/2001 11:04:55 AM PST by Askel5
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To: Renatus
I should have been abolished years ago.

you're too hard on yourself(lol)

seriously, I am a lifer Catholic too but I find myself questioning everything that the hierarchy collects for....sort of like questioning the Unitied Way...

I find that I am giving more and more directly to groups that have immediate and close contact with the actual poor and down-trodden...I feel that I am the best person to determine who needs my money..

27 posted on 11/12/2001 11:10:06 AM PST by cherry
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To: Dumb_Ox
Sorry, I have not seen any data in black and white. I recall O'Reilly having the CEO of the United Way on his show. (After 5 weeks of asking him to appear, by the way)

The condescending CEO, who IMHO O'Reilly allowed to dodge questions, stated that they want to be sure that the money is being given to the right people and that is the reason for the delay.

Kind of reminiscent of the "more rather than less, sooner rather than later" crap we heard from our most recently impeached president of the United States.

28 posted on 11/12/2001 11:15:21 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: Aunt Polgara
Hi Woofer, (ignoring your insults) I guess you are not familiar with the controversy surrounding the Campaign for Human Development.

Sorry you thought I was insulting, Auntie. Perusing thru the replies I see where y'all are coming from and what you meant in your opening vanity post. Maybe I just shot from the hip and put the Church and Pro-abortion in the wrong concept. But I think I'm getting the message. Appears that monies from the Church to the CHD are distributed, thus freeing other capital to fund programs not necessarily supported by any American Diocese (can't speak for the French).

So, I apologize if my remarks offended you. And thanks to everyone for futhering my education

I'm a big enough man to take the lumps I deserve.

29 posted on 11/12/2001 11:29:48 AM PST by woofer
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To: Diago; Askel5; *Catholic_list
Cleveland Catholic Diocese Again Recommends a $30K Grant for NARAL Group - This Time We Can Stop It!

Why Is Catholic Diocese of Cleveland Funding Leadership Training for NARAL ( Radical Abortion Group)

Kudos to Diago who made it all happen! Well done!

30 posted on 11/12/2001 11:41:53 AM PST by Romulus
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To: patent
Another archconservative Catholic checking in. Thanks for the bump!
32 posted on 11/12/2001 12:12:11 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: woofer
So, I apologize if my remarks offended you. And thanks to everyone for futhering my education I'm a big enough man to take the lumps I deserve.

Apology accepted. We can all learn from each other here. :^)

33 posted on 11/12/2001 1:06:54 PM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: patent
Hi patent, thanks for bumping your list. :-)

I don't think I would tell them that my money is going to Priests for Life, considering that PFL seems like it might be coming under fire -- no point in giving CHD a reason to pile on PFL. I sure hope that Fr. Pavone's removal doesn't portend bad things for PFL. :-(

34 posted on 11/12/2001 1:12:48 PM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: Askel5
Thanks for weiging in, Aslel5. BTW, do you know what has happened to the Wanderer? I can't find it on the web anymore. :-(
35 posted on 11/12/2001 1:17:29 PM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara
Thanks for the ping. I skip donating to the CHD, but usually do donate to the Catholic Services Appeal.

Does anyone have any information about how those funds are dispersed? I did know about the controversy of the CHD, but haven't heard anything concerning the Catholic Servies Appeal.

36 posted on 11/13/2001 3:13:36 AM PST by Nubbin
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To: Nubbin
Actually, it's Patent who pinged you. He's got the Catholic ping list.

I don't know anything about the "Catholic Services Appeal." We don't have anything with that name here in the Los Angeles archdiocese. Whereabouts are you from?

37 posted on 11/13/2001 4:38:20 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: Aunt Polgara
I'm in rural central texas. My parish is in the Austin diocese. Perhaps it is for programs within the diocese.
38 posted on 11/13/2001 2:48:55 PM PST by Nubbin
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To: Aunt Polgara
Interesting. I tried to visit "The Wanderer" website tonight and it has apperently been discontinued. A recent issue of "The Wanderer" gives its website as www.thewandererpress.com.
39 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:15 PM PST by IM2Phat4U
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To: Aquinasfan
Ditto.
40 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:48 PM PST by victim soul
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