[bluester]

The truth is always somewhere in between. The one about 90% of Arabs believing that America got what it deserved is one of them. I read a number of surveys among Muslims and Arabs, and the vast majority did not agree with the terrorist attacks nor with Bin Laden. Even more not only Muslims or Arabs in general, Bin Laden does not have much support in Afganistan alone.

Did you see that brilliant yet horrifying report on CNN from a reporter that was in Afghanistan? Where she hiddenly filmed with a VHS camera the situation there, the terror of the talibans against Afghani civilians (massacres, executions), women and children including. Are you aware of what they'r doing towards their own people? If you had seen it, you would see that not only do they not represent Muslims throughout the world, but they don't even represent the people of Afghanistan. They claim to be behind Islam, yet there are many many Muslims that don't agree with them, don't accept their mentality, their repression, their cruelty.

And if you're still seriously telling me that ALL Muslims hate non Muslims, that Bin Laden has a full support in Afghanistan, you'r not aware of some very important facts. This is a fight against terrorism, not against a religion, or people of a religion. Why should someone pay for the actions of others? Can you tell me one good reason?

I very much hope that they destroy the whole Bin Laden/Taliban chain, as these are one of the most cruel, insane group of people living on earth, there is no doubt about that, and the terror they have caused in Afghanistan and around the world (terrorist attacks) must be stopped. But not by harming other innocent people, that have nothing to do with Bin Laden, who are even among his victims, or put a whole religion into an evil context and blame it for the actions of some individuals. Islam does not deserve it, as does no other religion in this world deserve such treatment because od some people.

That's the distinction I make, and I would never dare demonize all people of a certain religion, say that they’r all evil and dangerous, because I very well know that it’s not true.

[Travis McGee]

Why is it that moslem societies that are the most secular, paying bare lip service to islam and letting each person practice it (or not) in their own way are the most free? Turkey springs to mind.

Why is it that moslem societies that are the most religious, banning all books except the koran, teaching children to memorize the entire koran by rote memorization over and over many hours a day, are the most unfree and cruel?

It seems that the "more moslem" a society is, the more intolerant and vicious it becomes.

Can you explain this?

[FreedomPoster]

The truth is that this is a moral code that preaches the killing and subjugation of non-believers. The truth is that many followers of this religion act on that belief system. The fact that not all believers do so does not make the belief system any more acceptable. While some individuals who call themselves Muslim are fine folks who act reasonably, the belief system itself is intrinsically flawed, and nothing an individual does can repair that flaw.

All the obfuscation in the world cannot cover up the above.