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Operation Enduring Patriotism- Starts Monday
We The People Foundation ^

Posted on 11/11/2001 8:33:42 AM PST by Constitution Scholar



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1 posted on 11/11/2001 8:33:42 AM PST by Constitution Scholar
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To: Constitution Scholar
It is about time they started teaching history in our schools again, instead of PC crap.
2 posted on 11/11/2001 8:39:45 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: Constitution Scholar
Is this NEA approved?
3 posted on 11/11/2001 8:42:11 AM PST by Mrs. P
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To: Constitution Scholar
Fantastic!
4 posted on 11/11/2001 8:42:21 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Constitution Scholar
"You have reached the phone lines of Operation Enduring Patriotism, please leave a message after the beep."

beeeeeeeep

Heavy Russian Accent: "We are so glad to hear you have come around to our way of thinking.
Sincerely the Free Speech Fighters of Pravda."

(In the background "You will write what we tell you to, you will teach the people what we tell you to, you have the freedom to agree with, us or die. Pass the vodka."

5 posted on 11/11/2001 8:50:52 AM PST by daedal
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To: Piquaboy
Nation: Bush honors veterans, calls for deeper appreciation of U.S. military

SONYA ROSS, Associated Press

NEW YORK (November 11, 2001 10:50 a.m. EST) - Honoring veterans at a Sunday breakfast, President Bush said he hopes the Sept. 11 attacks and the battle against terrorism will give Americans a deeper appreciation for the soldiers, sailors and pilots who have defended the United States through its history.

"America has always needed such bravery and such people, and we've always found them amongst us," Bush said during a Veterans Day breakfast at a New York armory.

Bush planned to meet afterward with the presidents of South Africa, Argentina and Colombia before attending a ceremony at the site of the collapsed World Trade Center towers. The president was not scheduled to speak at the event, marking the two-month anniversary of the attacks.

He suggested that Veterans Day tributes are more emotional this year because of the rekindled respect Americans have developed for police, firefighters, postal workers and other public servants.

"We look a little differently at our veterans, too," Bush said. "Americans have seen the terrible harm that an enemy can inflict. It has left us deeply grateful for the men and women who rise strongly in the defense of our nation."

Later, in lower Manhattan, clergy from various faiths were to speak at the twin towers site. During a flag ceremony, actor Ron Silver was to read a roll call of nations that lost citizens in the attacks.

Bush said the ceremony was intended to help make the case that all world nations are in the fight against terrorism together, willingly or not. "If we were to read the names of every person who died, it would take more than three hours," Bush said.

He noted that the dead included a Gambian man who perished one day shy of his fourth wedding anniversary; a young Mexican who sent money home to his wife weekly without fail; and a Pakistani "who prayed toward Mecca five times a day" and gave his life trying to help others.

"Time is passing. Yet, for the United States of America, there will be no forgetting September the 11th," Bush said Saturday. "We will remember every rescuer who died in honor. We will remember every family that lives in grief. We will remember the fire and ash, the last phone calls, the funerals of the children."

http://www.nando.net/nation/story/168264p-1615141c.html

6 posted on 11/11/2001 8:53:45 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: daedal
So you think teaching the Declaration and the Constitution amounts to propaganda?
7 posted on 11/11/2001 8:59:19 AM PST by copycat
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To: copycat
We will force you to teach it. Boy, I remember where the constitution says that, I guess I was mistaken.
8 posted on 11/11/2001 9:02:48 AM PST by daedal
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To: Mrs. P
Is this NEA approved?

Good Lord, I hope your joking.
9 posted on 11/11/2001 9:26:44 AM PST by lagamorph
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To: lagamorph
Good Lord, I hope you're joking.
10 posted on 11/11/2001 9:28:09 AM PST by lagamorph
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To: lagamorph
Is that a program that generates html that you use for your lettering? If so what is it called? I have seen it before and the html is huge for it.
11 posted on 11/11/2001 9:32:30 AM PST by daedal
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To: daedal
That wasn't my question. The discussion of forced curiculum is another topic alltogether.

You compared the teaching of American History to Soviet government propaganda.

12 posted on 11/11/2001 9:38:40 AM PST by copycat
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To: Constitution Scholar
I would imagine the Counsel on Foreign Relations will nip this idea in the bud... Imagine, teaching youngsters about the foundation of our Republic.. they might start thinking they can actually influence how our government behaves! Seriously, this idea is long, long overdue. Both the Declaration of Independence as well as the Constitution should be taught in each and every grade so that by the time a student enters college he/she will KNOW these two documents inside and out. Within a generation our nation might actually return to a sovereign, independent Republic.
13 posted on 11/11/2001 9:41:28 AM PST by waxhaw
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To: daedal
Its called civics. Its something that hasn't been taught for a long time in public (government) schools. What we are talking about here is to teach American Government principles in American schools, so that students can understand how it works. The problem is that now, they are getting a distorted view of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights which underpins it, and a great deal of time is spent on study of socialist systems.

After all, every politician has to sign a oath of office certifying that he will not work to against the Constitution, why shouldn't children be taught about how the national and State constitutions protect them?

There really is no good reason to object to study of the first principles!

14 posted on 11/11/2001 9:53:59 AM PST by citizenx7
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To: waxhaw
I would imagine the Counsel on Foreign Relations will nip this idea in the bud...

I would imagin so. I don't imagin they would want to have young people learn that that the CFR was founded by a notorious Marxist for the purpose of bringing socialism to America.

15 posted on 11/11/2001 10:01:27 AM PST by eskimo
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To: daedal
Freedom of speech stops when you stand before my child as a mentor. If you are hired to teach a subject, that is what you should teach - not your own political ideology. Let me teach my children politics and religion - it's not your job.

American History is a subject that should be taught to all children in the US. American History begins with our founding documents. This is not a contradiction - teach the history as it happened not as you think it should be interpreted.

16 posted on 11/11/2001 10:28:47 AM PST by mfulstone
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To: Constitution Scholar
Hmmm.
It doesn't sound as though it's in line with the Carnegie Foundation/UN plan.
Are children deliberately 'dumbed down' in school?
I will be ASTOUNDED if it passes.
(Of course, if it was a "diversity training" course...)
17 posted on 11/11/2001 10:37:53 AM PST by freefly
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To: daedal
Teaching how our government works is teaching facts.

Not teaching it is propaganda by repression. It is censorship. Students have the right to know the facts.

Lessee. That ought to enlist the backing of the mainstream media, the NEA, the anti-war crowd.

The Pentagon is badgered daily for the "facts" by the media. The Teachers' Union lobbies constantly against censoring obscene literature. Anti-war activists protest for equal coverage of ideas...oops, got that wrong.

I have noticed that the "others" attribute their own characteristics to us. If they practice censorship, they think we will. If they hide the facts, if they repress opposition viewpoints, if they shout down freedom of speech, they think we will. I swear they are from another planet. They really don't think like we do.

Unfortunately, following the same paradigm, we think they think like us. We support the same rights to everyone. While we see this as equality, they interpret this as weakness. Equality arms the opposition, levels the playing field, lets them confront false ideas. You can't win with that kind of competition. And winning is everything.

18 posted on 11/11/2001 10:52:04 AM PST by Starbreed
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To: daedal
Perhaps you should be living on some island where there is only one inhabitant, you, and no history except where you took your last crap!
19 posted on 11/11/2001 11:02:55 AM PST by Aztech
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To: Constitution Scholar
I hope they start with Cleon Skousen's book The Making of America. As a Constitutional scholar, myself, I consider it to be an excellent basic teaching text. They could use The Creation of the American Republic 1776-1787 by Gordon S. Wood, Chief Justice Joseph Story's Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States with preliminary review of the Constitutional History of the United States and Alfred Kelly and Winfred Harbison's The American Constitution as supplementary text.

The Bill of Rights could be taught through Bernard Schwartz and Edwin Webb's The Roots of the Bill of Rights with the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers.

Some might say that this course would be too hard for high school kids. If it is, then they shouldn't be allowed to vote until they have taken it in college or elsewhere.

20 posted on 11/11/2001 12:07:15 PM PST by marsh2
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