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1 posted on 11/08/2001 9:42:00 PM PST by Howlin
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****Speech delivered by Clinton at Georgetown University****

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10000000 posted on 11/9/01 8:41 AM central


76 posted on 11/09/2001 5:43:36 AM PST by WIMom
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To: Howlin
Someone on this board said,
"I despised Clinton then,

I despise Clinton now,

When the scum is gone, I'll despise upon his soul"


90 posted on 11/09/2001 5:48:32 AM PST by Toidylop
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I have always thought that Clinton and his wife were Anti-American Marxists, this speech proves it.
99 posted on 11/09/2001 6:07:07 AM PST by Dustbunny
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ewwwww - he (Clinton, of course) looks absolutely GROSS!!!!

BLECH!!

105 posted on 11/09/2001 6:14:38 AM PST by MasonGal
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First let me say that anything I say has to be viewed in the context of my present job...

What job?

109 posted on 11/09/2001 6:22:29 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Falwell said:

"God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve,"

Clinton said:

Those of us who come from various European lineages are not blameless.

Clinton is blaming the victims. Falwell blames secular America. I don’t see much of a difference, except Falwell apologized.

Also this transcript evidently was handed out before the speech was given. It would be interesting to compare what he actually said to this transcript. It sure doesn't point out all the words he slurred in the speech.

116 posted on 11/09/2001 6:37:01 AM PST by FR_addict
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Indexing.
121 posted on 11/09/2001 7:09:14 AM PST by Howlin
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It sure looks like this man is not only our 'first black' President, but perhaps our first 'third world' president with his understanding and empathy for the struggles of Islam. Could he possibly be appointed as our ambassador to Afghanistan? Hopefully a permanent residence could be found there.
123 posted on 11/09/2001 7:14:37 AM PST by JoeySixPack
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When I became president in January of '93 there were only fifty sites on the worldwide web

I met this slick hick once. He struck me as a pathological liar and devoid that had to have a script to communicate. I bet he believes every word of this. Watch him, as time passes he will become even more strange.

141 posted on 11/09/2001 6:19:44 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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so many words.... so little said.

I don't care where he goes - he just needs to go the HELL away!

147 posted on 11/09/2001 11:08:21 PM PST by pittsburgh gop guy
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Gene, Gene "The Clinton Analingus Machine" Lyons from FartSlop (best venue his addled rantings can get these days)

Gene Lyons: Right-wing media continue to savage Clinton

Many things have changed in this country since Sept. 11, but not the brazen distortions of the right-wing media nor the craven failure of "mainstream" journalists to confront them. The result is a decadent national press unwilling to stand up for the ethical standards that supposedly govern the "profession" of journalism, and a steep decline in the quality of public discourse in our democracy.

Last week saw yet another ludicrous, but ugly controversy stirred up by journalistic fraud. As usual, the malefactors were the Washington Times, the National Review, Fox News, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh and his army of talk radio imitators. The hyperventilating shills of the World Wrestling Federation have nothing on this bunch. Even a normally skeptical Democrat-Gazette columnist got taken for a ride. Also as usual, the immediate target was Bill Clinton.



Next time you're flabbergasted by some preposterous lie in the gutter press of Baghdad or Cairo, remember that this bunch duped millions of credulous boobs into believing that Wicked Bill told a college audience, as one outraged letter to the Washington Times put it, that "America got what it deserves" at the hands of Arab terrorists. Or, as the Democrat-Gazette columnist wrote, that he delivered a "rant of  justifiable homicide" which "vindicated" Osama bin Laden. The fierce intellectuals of the National Review declared that having "pardoned the unpardonable, now [Clinton] has justified the unjustifiable."

Remember too that hardly anybody in our vigilant national media pointed out what an alert golden retriever would have suspected, that the whole flap was caused by a comically grotesque distortion of what Clinton actually said. Here's how it happened: on November 7, Clinton spoke at his alma mater, Georgetown University. A next day front page account in the Washington Times was misleadingly headlined "Clinton says U.S. is paying for its past." The article, written by one Joseph Curl, turned his speech upside down, insinuating that an inconsequential (and factually indisputable) aside he'd made about 19th century mistreatment of slaves and native Americans constituted an excuse for terrorism.

Almost the direct opposite is true. "I am just a citizen," Clinton said at the outset, "and as a citizen I support the efforts of President Bush, the national security team, and our allies in fighting the current terrorist threat. I believe we all should." Clinton brought up past atrocities only to illustrate his point that terrorism is morally abhorrent and militarily futile. "The killing of noncombatants for economic, political, or religious reasons," he observed "has a very long history, as long as organized combat itself, and yet, it has never succeeded as a military strategy."

At no point, did Clinton suggest any causal or moral connection whatsoever between America's ancient sins and contemporary terrorist acts. He did say that this country is "still paying a price" for its past.  Who can deny it?  But he also said that "the people who died represent, in my view, not only the best of America, but the best of the world. The terrorists killed people who came to America not to die, but dream, from every continent, from dozens of countries, most every religion on the face of the earth, including Islam. They, those that died in New York, the Pentagon, and Pennsylvania are part of a very different world and a very different worldview than those who killed them." He described the campaign against Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda as a "struggle for the soul of the 21st century."

In a pungent essay on his Daily Howler website, Bob Somerby has shown that the phony claim that Clinton "basically said we are getting what we deserve in the terrorist attack," as a GOP spokesman parroted on CNN later that day, was created by techniques journalists profess to abhor: yanking partial quotes out of context and the dark art of malicious paraphrase. (Anybody who doubts me and wants to fight about it can find Clinton's entire speech online at Salon.com or the Georgetown University website. The rest of you can stick to the time-honored "Voices" tactic of name-calling. "Clinton apologist," with its heady whiff of Stalinist orthodoxy, is the one Washington professionals prefer.)

Even the Clinton-phobic pundit Andrew Sullivan, after denouncing the former president before troubling himself to read the speech, subsequently admitted that the Washington Times account was "appallingly slanted."

Yet nary a syllable was emitted by the so-called "liberal Establishment" press. Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz produced a bemused item about the right's obsession with Bad Bill, but nowhere hinted at the Times' unethical methods. It's simply not done. Two reasons:  first, it's seen as futile, like starting a campaign to convince 20 million morons that pro wrestling is fixed. Second, fear. The crack-pot ideologues of  the far right are shameless, relentless, and well-funded. Why provoke them merely to defend democratic values?

158 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:09 PM PST by an amused spectator
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Bumping for the list.
160 posted on 12/14/2001 9:01:26 AM PST by denydenydeny
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