Posted on 11/08/2001 11:27:01 AM PST by ouroboros
Back in the 1930s, when white men were preparing for another round of mutual slaughter, few of them paid any attention to the Muslim world. They assumed it to be a backward region that history had long since passed by.
One man saw it differently. The great Catholic polemicist Hilaire Belloc, an Englishman of French ancestry, remembered Islams past and predicted, in his book The Great Heresies, that it would one day challenge the West again. As late as 1683 its armies had threatened to conquer Europe, penetrating all the way to Vienna; Belloc believed that a great Islamic revival, even in the twentieth century, was altogether possible.
Belloc saw Islam not as an alien religion, but in its origins as a Christian heresy, adopting and adapting certain Christian doctrines (monotheism, the immortality of the soul, final judgment) and rejecting others (original sin, the Incarnation and divinity of Christ, the sacraments). Its simple, rational creed had a powerful appeal to Arabs who had known only the arbitrary gods of grim pagan religions. It swept the Arab world, then made converts and conquests far beyond Arabia.
Islam was a militant religion from the start. Mohammed himself conquered the entire Arabian Peninsula in just a few years. The new faith was torn by violent internal divisions even as it continued to spread. But spread it did, with incredible rapidity.
Christians had good reason to fear Islam, which soon conquered Spain and held it for centuries. But because Islam has little attraction for Christians, the West has generally failed to grasp its appeal for others, its profound and permanent hold on the minds of believers. Unlike the Christian West, the Muslim world has never had crises of faith like the Reformation and the Enlightenment.
Islam is a simple religion, easily understood by ordinary people. Its commandments are rigorous but few. When it conquered, its subjugated people often felt more liberated than enslaved, because it often replaced burdensome old bureaucratic governments with relatively undemanding regimes and low taxes. As long as its authority was respected, Islamic rule was comparatively libertarian. It offered millions relief from their traditional oppression; for example, no Muslim could be a slave.
Belloc distinguishes sharply between Islam and such barbarous conquerors as the Mongol hordes of Genghis Khan. The Mongols were purely destructive; they were known for slaughtering whole cities and making huge pyramids of severed heads.
Such savagery was alien to the Muslims. Where they conquered, daily life usually went on much as before and culture thrived. In many respects the Muslim world was far more civilized than Christian Europe for centuries. The West hated and dreaded Islam, but nobody would have thought of calling it backward.
That contemptuous image came much later, when modern Europes science, technology, and above all weaponry had eclipsed those of the Arabs. We are apt to forget how recently this development occurred; and, as Belloc warned, it is not irreversible.
Man, especially irreligious man, is apt to equate power and progress. Many of those who say America is the greatest country on earth really mean only that America has fantastic military might, capable of annihilating any other country and some of them, at the moment, are in the mood to do some annihilating. To the pious Muslim this attitude seems crass and barbaric. He may conclude from it that the decadent West understands only one thing: force.
And would he be far wrong? Belloc admitted that the idea of a new Muslim challenge to the West seemed fantastic, but only because the West was blinded by the immediate past. Taking a longer view, he saw Islam, though inferior in material power, as having a great advantage: its religious faith was still strong, while the West was losing its religion and consequently its morale. He thought it entirely possible that Islam would catch up technologically, while he doubted that the West would undergo a spiritual revival.
Are we seeing the beginning of the fulfillment of Bellocs prophecy? If so, the current uproar over Islamic terrorism may turn out to be a mere superficial symptom of a much larger historical drama. The West is still strong, but it is dying. Islam is still weak, but it is growing. Never mind the terrorists; check the birthrates.
He's right on target with this.
Nuke 'em while they pray!
I believe Aristotle said, "The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend." We need to keep this in mind. Ironically, one of Aristotle's most noted pupils was Alexander the Great, who happened to "visit" Afghanistan before.
To sum it up, I just don't expect the Northern Alliance to become our "good muslim" ally for a long period of time. We have all seen what islam is capable of becoming, and they are no exception.
That's the kicker. Especially in Israel.
By moving in here, converting, multiplying, and becoming a large fifth column.
it often replaced burdensome old bureaucratic governments with relatively undemanding regimes and low taxes. As long as its authority was respected, Islamic rule was comparatively libertarian.
Is everything we know wrong? Where do I sign up?
"Taking a longer view, he saw Islam, though inferior in material power, as having a great advantage: its religious faith was still strong, while the West was losing its religion and consequently its morale. He thought it entirely possible that Islam would catch up technologically, while he doubted that the West would undergo a spiritual revival. "
It is precisely because they are trapped in their religious beliefs that they are technologically backwards. They were ahead of Europe for centuries, but turned their backs to science because of the questions it raised. Imagine if Gallileo & Co. had agreed with the church that the sun really did revolve around the Earth; this is much like what happened with Islam.
The Middle East will never advance (and will thus never really threaten the west) until it becomes more secular, not the other way around. In other words, the only way to 'beat' us is to become like us. But by the time that happens, there will no longer be a reason to attack.
His last point about the birth rate was laughable. Sub-Saharan Africa's birthrate is also far higher than the West's. Does this indicate that they are a threat to us as well?
But the reason the West has flourished technologically is not because it has abandoned religion in favor of secularism, but because its first universal religion had dogmatized the rationality of the universe and man's ability to know it. Skepticism is a constant companion of secularism, and a skeptic can hardly do science if he doubts his own ability to know anything outside himself.
JasonC has written a very interesting interpretation of history on this thread. For instance:
The paradox must be fully faced. The [rejected] Islamic philosophy that thought relatively highly of the powers of human reason and opposed skepticism, and which relied heavily on Aristotle (and some Platonic notions), was in the west incorporated into -church- doctrine, into Acquinas. Which the later forces were reacting -against-.The secularizing skeptics (like Hobbes and Hume) were -opposing- that doctrine in the Enlightenment, not endorsing it. They were effectively saying, scholastic philosophy cannot really know about such things, and its pretences that it does are vain. And the Protestants were also opposing it, though for somewhat different reasons. They argued that the church had put falliable human reasoning where it didn't belong and thus distorted scripture, and drew the conclusion that literalism was a safer policy to ensure orthodoxy.
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