[Clovis_Skeptic]

also, Baladullah is operating a charter school, several actually all over California, and have received over $1 million of taxpayer money to operate, and are due to get well over $5 million next year....just thought you would like to know......

[Grampa Dave]

Please go to this Google search to find out more than you ever wanted to know about this friendly group of Islamic Welcome Wagon fanatics, (Fugra, Google search link)

I'm out of here in a few minutes until tomorrow morning! Anyone who does not own a gun in California for family protection, had best go their local gun shop and start the paper process!

[zog]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! and the goobermint and certain swooning with the vapors-prone freepsters are worried about 3 "militia" bubbas in a pickup who mostly talk about coon hunting! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hey, I bet this mad jihader camp offers guest seminars to the kalifornian aztlan dudes! HAHAHAHAHAHA! But hey, there's a starbucks nearby, and ain't that sushi joint great! heheheheheheheehehe

proud to be in un-hip, un-cool, and mostly as far as I can see non jihader infested bubbaland zog

[shezza]

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[headsonpikes]

RE: Islamic Village

It was there this morning. Are you trying to tell me it's STILL there???

I mean, Jeez Louise, HOURS have gone by!

[Anticommie]

The group south of Fresno operates an 1,800-acre compound called the International Quranic Open University, which sits on the former site of the drug addiction recovery cult Synanon.

Where is Janet Reno when we need her?

[MissAmericanPie]

They are just trying to blend into the tapestry of diversity that is the fabric of our multicultural brotherhood in Amerika.

[Terriergal]

wow. That was a thorough report. Impressive, coming from an ABC station!

[Hemlock]

Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno?

Question: why is there a Polak village in the Chicago Metropolitan Area, and why aren't you in it?

Note: Polish people are as smart as anyone. It's just a joke.

[Grampa Dave]

Please take a little time and read about this group and as it turns out groups operating not only in California but other states.

This has to be some of the scariest $hit that I have "just" found out about our home grown Islamic Fanatic Terrorists.

Miss Marple, this group operates in the back yard of your favorite congressman, Condidit! I wonder if the Guild can find any financial connections between any sugar Daddy to this group and Davis and Condidit!

John and Tonkin, would you please set this post up with your ping lists. For some really scary stuff go to the replies in the 190's from Don Joe and Ernest re data they found on this outfit on a Google search that I did!

So this Islamic group with connections to Islamic terrorists operated right in Condidit's back yard and of course in Gray Davis's state.

I will be out of the loop until about next tuesday, so if I don't respond to you, you will know that I away from the computer!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

IMPORTANT PING Grampa Dave would not have asked for this PING unless was REALLY IMPORTANT
Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno?

Please take a little time and read about this group and as it turns out groups operating not only in California but other states.

This has to be some of the scariest $hit that I have "just" found out about our home grown Islamic Fanatic Terrorists.

Miss Marple, this group operates in the back yard of your favorite congressman, Condidit! I wonder if the Guild can find any financial connections between any sugar Daddy to this group and Davis and Condidit!

John and Tonkin, would you please set this post up with your ping lists. For some really scary stuff go to the replies in the 190's from Don Joe and Ernest re data they found on this outfit on a Google search that I did!

So this Islamic group with connections to Islamic terrorists operated right in Condidit's back yard and of course in Gray Davis's state.

I will be out of the loop until about next tuesday, so if I don't respond to you, you will know that I away from the computer!

220 posted on 11/8/01 11:02 PM Pacific by Grampa Dave


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[Sandy]

Religious wackos living in an isolated trailor park compound? I believe standard procedure is for the feds to burn them alive while the nation yawns.

[Travis McGee]

Check this thread out, and the article linked on #162.

[F-117A]

The compound Beyond seeking out ties to bin Laden-linked terrorist networks, officials are keeping tabs on another Islamic group near Fresno because of the recent killing of a sheriff's deputy in an area home, apparently stemming from a botched burglary.(this was no burglary according to all accounts)

Terrorism started in Serbia and Macedonia with attacks on police. Get ready for a bumpy ride, expect more attacks and "accidents" involving governments officials.

[HamiltonJay]

Just one more reason I will be glad to leave this state far behind... don't know what I was thinking when I moved here in the first place....

[Joe Hadenuf]

Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno?

Its the same reason our government has allowed millions upon millions of criminal illegal aliens to invade our nation.

The people of California stepped up to the plate several years ago. The people of the great state of California held a free election and voted 3 to 1 in favor of proposition 187 which would have put a stop to much of the tax paid support of illegal aliens and the federal government stepped in and burned our ballots and declared our election unconstitutional. Wake up America.

Our borders and immigration policies have become a national disgrace, and now a complete national security nightmare.

End the immigration "free for all".

[snorkeler]

btt

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

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[AnalogReigns]

also, Baladullah is operating a charter school, several actually all over California, and have received over $1 million of taxpayer money to operate, and are due to get well over $5 million next year....

Things like this should give conservatives (like myself) pause over the wisdom of having charter schools and voucher programs... We could have thousands of such schools all over the country funded by your tax dollars if we had a voucher system.

There's a distinct behavioural difference between Christian fundamentalists/evangelicals and Islamic fundamentalists....

[timestax]

4 words==nukem and nukem again!

[Clovis_Skeptic]

..this article is most interesting...just when you thought this thread had maxed out..sorry....

Death penalty possible in deputy's slaying
Suspect is due to be arraigned today on a charge of murder of a
Fresno County peace officer and 3 charges of attempted murder.
By Marc Benjamin,
The Fresno Bee
(Published Saturday, August, 25, 2001 6:16AM

The man accused of shooting and killing Fresno County sheriff's deputy Erik Telen in a rural home Tuesday could face the death penalty if the case goes to trial.

Charges filed Thursday against Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah, 20, by the District Attorney's Office open the possibility of the death penalty being sought, said James Oppliger, chief deputy district attorney in the homicide unit.

The crime meets state penal code requirements because it was committed during a burglary and while a peace officer was carrying out his duty.

Abdullah is in Fresno County Jail on a charge of murder of a peace officer and three charges of attempted murder. Because of the nature of the crime, Abdullah is not eligible for bail, Oppliger said.

"I may very well add other charges," he said.

Those charges may include an enhancement of lying in wait for his victim and one or two more charges of attempted murder on peace officers while they were on duty.

Abdullah is scheduled to be arraigned today.

A source close to the investigation confirmed Abdullah lived in the Tulare County community of Badger, about 10 miles southeast of the shooting site near Dunlap, in an 1,800-acre village operated by a Muslim organization.

A teen-age boy serving as a sentry at the front gate (freepers keep in mind this is pre 911) of the village's entry Thursday said Abdullah had been staying there. The teen-ager wouldn't say when Abdullah left. Abdullah has family living in or near Binghamton, N.Y., the FBI confirmed Thursday.

"I'm not here to answer questions," said the boy, dressed in camouflage fatigue-style pants and a beige button-down shirt. "He was here, but he left."

An adult came to the gate later and also said he would not answer questions about the shooting or the compound, which he described as the "Muslim village of Baladullah."

"The people here are living peacefully," the man said. "We're being cooperative with the Sheriff's Office and they have all information."

Just inside the compound's front gate are about eight trailer homes. There is also an office serving as headquarters for a U-Haul truck rental business run by the Muslim villagers.(anyone want to follow that trail??)

The teen-ager wouldn't allow reporters to enter the office.

Another sign in front advertised the village's International Quranic Open University. "We have many things inside," the man said.

Just beyond the gates and a waist-high barbed wire fence, a group of children could be seen tending to goats. Dozens of junked cars and other mechanical equipment were strewn nearby.

One neighbor of the compound said she often hears automatic and other types of gunfire and has made "four or five reports to the sheriff's office."

Tulare County sheriff's Capt. Gary Harris, however, said the Muslim village has not been a burden to his department.(..if you ignore concerned citizens reports,and keep sleeping...no burden here)

"We have not had any crimes or calls for service that are uncommon for foothill areas of Tulare County," said Harris, the department's operations commander. "We have no investigations going on up there."(Note: it was a Fresno County Deputy Sheriff that was killed)

Miramonte Postmaster Ken Williams said members of the organization often receive packages and "have always been polite."

"It's a little bit secretive, not in a bad sense, but they are kind of private," he said.

Earlier this year, James Hobson, who was staying at the Badger encampment under the name Umar Abdussalam, was arrested by the U.S. Marshal's Service in downtown Fresno. He was wanted for allegedly smuggling guns between New York and South Carolina Link to another Fuqra member arrested for gun smuggling

Baladullah is not the only Muslim community in the area. (Surprise, Surprise) Authorities say Abdullah may have been visiting a similar, smaller community in Dunlap on the day Telen, a 26-year-old father of two, was shot inside a resident's home into which the suspect had fled.

Other Muslims in Fresno County's foothills were surprised to learn the suspect was from the Badger compound.

"I was in shock," said Shadya Morgan, a Squaw Valley resident. "If you believe in God, you don't kill nobody. People will claim they are this or they are that, but only God knows."

Thousands of officers from across the state are expected at Telen's memorial service at 10 a.m. Monday in Peoples Church, 7172 N. Cedar Ave. in Fresno.