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Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno?
KFSN TV 30 Fresno, CA ^ | 11-07-01 | Kevin Quinn

Posted on 11/08/2001 8:14:41 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic

.Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno? There's an airstrip and neighbors complain of gunfire. Kevin Quinn takes you inside Baladullah, California.

Sorry, no transcript as of now. Video only. Worth the effort to view.

The video provides a look at this compound in the foothills above Fresno, CA. Pre 9-11, a Fresn County Sheriffs deputy was killed by a member of this peaceful Islamic community. The suspect (in the beginning trial phase still) broke into a empty nearby foothill home, when deputies arrived this guy was lying in the hallway floor with a rifle, and killed one deputy. This video is the first investigative reporting we have had on this Islamic community. The trail leads to FUQRA, a known terrorist group operating all over the world, and have several communities such as this one all over the USA.

Here is an excerpt from an article of the Sacramento Bee...

California links of terrorists probed:
Federal and state investigators try to unearth 'sleeper' agents.
By Sam Stanton and Andy Furillo
Bee Staff Writers

(Published Sept. 30, 2001)

The compound Beyond seeking out ties to bin Laden-linked terrorist networks, officials are keeping tabs on another Islamic group near Fresno because of the recent killing of a sheriff's deputy in an area home, apparently stemming from a botched burglary.(this was no burglary according to all accounts)

There is no evidence that the Fresno group has been involved in any terrorist activities, officials say.

The group, according to a federal source, is part of Fuqra, an organization whose name means "poverty" in Arabic and which has had compounds in several U.S. areas.

Some Fuqra members in other areas have been implicated in past years in domestic terrorist attacks, and the State Department has labeled the group, known formally as Jamaat ul-Fuqra, as "an Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence."

The group south of Fresno operates an 1,800-acre compound called the International Quranic Open University, which sits on the former site of the drug addiction recovery cult Synanon.

The compound, a series of mobile homes shaded by trees, also serves as a U-Haul rentals location. A resident there last week refused to talk to a reporter, referring inquiries to a Visalia attorney who did not respond to a message seeking information.

Authorities have been studying the compound since the Aug. 21 slaying of Fresno County Sheriff's Deputy Erik Telen. Officials charged 20-year-old Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah with murder in the killing, apparently stemming from a botched burglary at a rural home.

James Oppliger, Fresno County's chief deputy district attorney, said the suspect claimed he had been living at the compound seeking psychiatric treatment from the Quranic university.

Oppliger said he since has begun studying the group and its possible connections to other organizations.

(Zavia Books) is the bookstore for this Islamic compound. It is called Koranic Open University. Note the books being sold. One of them is prefaced by ( Sheik Mubarik Ali Shah Jilani [Gilani]) a known terrorist. The trail leads from Baladullah (actually Miramonte, CA) to Pakistan, where Sheik Gilani lives. He is the head of Fuqra.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: alfuqra; baladullah; fresno; fuqra; gilani; jamaatalfuqra; jihadinamerica; jilani; redcross; trainingcamps; university
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To: harpseal
I have heard nothing about Baladullah being subjected to any type of harassment at all. If this were true it would have been reported widely here. A few Siekhs (sp?) have been attacked, a couple of them unfortunatley killed, and all incidents no matter how minor it may have been, have received extensive press coverage here in the Central Valley of CA.
501 posted on 12/10/2001 6:12:59 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Since there has been no harassment yet the letter claims harassment then one must presume there is something very nefarious going on there.

Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

502 posted on 12/10/2001 8:07:31 AM PST by harpseal
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To: ladyinred; richardthelionheart; Clovis_Skeptic; Travis McGee
Some interesting stuff in a News Weak article on Johnny Jihad.

In late 1999 John Walker came home, mostly to see his mother, who had worried about him. John felt uncomfortable in America, however, and wanted to rejoin the Islamic world. In California he fell in with a large Islamic missionary group, the Tablighi Jamaat, which, according to intelligence sources, is sometimes used as a recruiting ground by extremist groups.

Walker was taken under the wing of a Pakistani missionary named Khizar Hiyat, who had invited the impressionable Walker to join him on a drive to Nevada as he was spreading the word. After a brief return to Yemen, Walker traveled with Hiyat in Pakistan for a month before choosing the austere madrasa outside Bannu.

Is there any connection between Khizar Hiyat and the Islamic compound near Fresno or the other compounds!        

It is not clear how Walker wound up in Afghanistan. A friend from a San Fran-cisco mosque told NEWSWEEK that he received an e-mail from Walker a month before he left Bannu for the “cooler mountains” in May of this year.

For the full NewsWeak story on Johhny Jihad, (NewsWeaks' story on Johnny Jihad)

503 posted on 12/10/2001 9:13:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: richardthelionheart
Wow, wish you could respond to Erin Kennedy! I did email her after she wrote an even longer response to my Husband that made me even more ballistic. Because of that, she now has broken off communications with my husband!
She said I was not civil. Well, she's right, I wasn't.

In regards to Johnny Jihad, I do know that one of the largest cells of Muslims who are friendly to Bin Ladin, according to the local media there, is in Fremont, Ca. which is not too far from Marin county. I do not know if they have one of these "villages" there or not. That is something we do need to see if we can find out, or if he was ever at this one in the foothills near my home.

504 posted on 12/11/2001 9:01:23 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: Grampa Dave
As I stated in above reply to RTLH, Fremont is a very large gathering place for Muslims in line with OBL and the Taliban. I was up there a few weeks after the attacks and heard a report on the local news about it.
That is not very far, maybe 45 minutes from Marin county where Johnny boy grew up, raised himself is a better description I would think.
Hopefully, as more is known, we can find out if he had any contact with this "village" here in the foothills.
505 posted on 12/11/2001 9:04:58 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: richardthelionheart
This post of yours is brilliant, and you have raised so many questions that I am ashamed to say I never even considered. I just have been getting the media story, you know, his parents said his heart was attached to the Taliban, yada, yada, yada, which is bizarre to say the least.
Makes me realize how easily they can pull these things off, when someone like me, who is already a bit paranoid about them being in the area doesn't even think about HOW he managed to get in the position he was in.
Thank you for opening my eyes to this, there were questions I hadn't even begun to ask yet.
506 posted on 12/11/2001 9:14:47 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: richardthelionheart; Grampa Dave
* A base in Santa Clara, California, was used from 1990 to co- ordinate communications with terrorists' cells around the world, including Bin Laden's Sudanese base. Other operatives were based in New York.

Found this from a link posted above. I think it answers the question I had about Fremont, it is in Santa Clara county, not far from Marin County either.

507 posted on 12/11/2001 9:22:14 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: richardthelionheart; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee; harpseal; Saundra Duffy; Clovis_Skeptic; ladyinred
After the Baladullah story was printed in the local paper, and one of the reporters wrote an article about how peaceful the Islamic religion was, I wrote to her. I attempted to change her mind in hopes of getting some sort of alert to her readers about how difficult it is to protect ourselves against an enemy you can't identify and what I felt was an immediate response to protect our country from more attacks. After a short back and forth discussion, she ended the correspondence saying we disagree and left it at that. There has been no response from the local talk shows or local liberal paper. WE ARE GETTING PCed TO DEATH - THIS PC PEACE WILL GET INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED!

Here is the letter that got absolutely no response.

Dear Mr./Mrs. Politically Correct,

I am a fairly regular listener to the news and talk shows. I have been hearing a very disturbing situation being “sold” to the public. The media, government officials, and talk show hosts included, have been telling us to accept the Muslims and the Islamic faith, that this religion is loving and peaceful. Although I do agree, not all the Islamic faith believers will totally abide by their religious teachings, ONE CANNOT IGNORE what the Holy Koran contains in its scriptural writings.

The Holy Koran contains explicit instructions, clearly spelled out for the behavior of the followers of the Islamic faith. It is pretty frightening to say the least. In particular, when you consider that an estimated one and one half billion people practice this faith world wide and with this nation having a large and growing representation of this faith, it is justifiably a major concern. I think the Islamic Holy Koran is well worth reading to properly understand why those of us that are aware of these teachings are in fear of the Muslim people. It is well justified and compounded by what we have just learned from the recent attacks on the east coast.

The fear is componded by learning of the long term planning that has been in place by the terrorists. Their disclosed assimilation manual giving instructions on how to work into our way of life without drawing attention to themselves, how to become one of us and avoid any suspicion has enabled them to become well entrenched and stratigically placed for their next activity. This plan has been in place for a number of years.

So now, the problem is, a terrorist could be your neighbor, in the seat next to you, living next door, friendly and even helpful at times. SO HOW DO YOU TELL JUST WHOM THE TERRORIST IS? They are here in this country, waiting for the window of opportunity to open so they can fulfill the goal specified by their leader and their religious teaching. Yet,the media , the government and the Pathetically Crazy are telling us to be politically correct.

Well - being politically correct will just probably wind up killing a bunch of innocent people. I do not have the answer and the Politically Correct advocate doesn’t either. But I do know that if we follow their instructions not to consider a Muslim as a possible threat we could wind up allowing another WTC or worse. We must continually be aware and keep every possible terrorist under suspicion whether it is politically correct or not. Ilegals should be deported immediately with reapplication considered after a background check is fully completed. If we offend these people, OH WELL, better to offend than having another life wasting attack. I would also add - they (Muslims) need to have an understanding about our attitude and concern for this nation. In my opinion, anyone not willing to comply is aiding the terrorists effort. OUR NATION IS AT STAKE, OUR CITIZENS INCLUDED!

And now it appears that we have a training ground for these Johnny Jihads right here in our back yard and cannot get an investigation going - at least not that we are aware of. I am at a loss to counter the media and the soft peddling being done for the Islamic religion. "Help, I am falling and I can't get up."

508 posted on 12/11/2001 9:44:30 PM PST by chadsworth
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To: chadsworth; richardthelionheart; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee; harpseal; Saundra Duffy...
Let's hope that what I have copied, pasted and provided a link is not what happens: (Link to more possible terrorist attacks on US)">

It is time that we end this PC crap, the liberals feeling bad/sorry for the Islamics, and those who worry more about the rights of these villagers, Johnny Taliban, and the potential terrorist we need to be interviewing, but certain American cities are not helping and are refusing to help interview the potent killers!

The Washington Times; www.washtimes.com

American in Taliban: Biological strike on U.S. near

Bill Gertz; THE WASHINGTON TIMES; Published 12/12/2001     

 An American Taliban fighter held captive by Marines in Afghanistan has told American officials that al Qaeda's next attack on the United States will take place in days and involve biological weapons, U.S. intelligence officials told The Washington Times.    

  John Walker Lindh, the Taliban guerrilla captured near Mazar-e-Sharif, said in intelligence debriefings at the U.S. Marine Corps base near Kandahar that "Phase II" of al Qaeda's war against the United States will occur at the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which ends Sunday.   

   Mr. Lindh told U.S. intelligence officials that the Ramadan attack will involve the use of biological weapons.   

   A third phase of al Qaeda's war on the United States will result in the destruction of the entire country, the Islamic convert stated.   

   The officials said they have questioned the credibility of Mr. Lindh's claim because of his relatively low-level position.  

    Still, the information was among other intelligence reports that led the Bush administration to issue a public warning last week about a possible terrorist attack, the officials said.  

    No other details were available about Mr. Lindh's debriefing. However, the intelligence about the impending attack is an indication Mr. Lindh may have been part of the al Qaeda network in addition to fighting on behalf of the Taliban militia. (Link to more possible terrorist attacks on US)">

509 posted on 12/11/2001 10:19:42 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: All
Fresno is not the only city, that is too PC to investigate potential terrorists in their backyard.

The mayor of Portland, Or, her butt boy police chiefs and her slimy city lawyer are refusing to cooperate with John Ashcroft in interviewing potential terrorists. Islamics in Portland who might not be there for the good of America. (link)

I just hope that the love of diversity and PC love in Fresno and other cities does not end up killing more innocent Americans!

510 posted on 12/11/2001 10:26:01 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; Joseph Warren
Very interesting!

Between the flow of illegals over the border,
we now have recruitment of our weak
young people here, to go abroad ,
and there help attack our oversea interests.

511 posted on 12/11/2001 10:42:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
I just got pinged on this very disturbing arrest of a probable Islamic Terrorist in Portland, Or..(Lebanese man who trained at guerrilla camps arrested in Portland)

In the car, they found a fully loaded Russian-made 9mm pistol, a Romanian-made assault rifle, more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition and a machete, Kroeker said."

At the suspect's southwest Portland home police found Social Security cards, credit cards and an immigration green card that are also believed to have been fraudulently obtained, Kroeker said.

Also found in the home was a calendar with the date Sept. 11 highlighted, the plaque with the word "Hamas," and $20,000 in cash, Kroeker said.

Steitiye has been an American citizen since last year, but is believed to have obtained his citizenship fraudulently, Kroeker said. "

So what terrorist camps did this Hamas hero train at. Over there or over here?

Has he and his weapons been down to Fresno for a little firearm training in the past year or so?

512 posted on 12/11/2001 10:43:30 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Joseph Warren
Huh?
514 posted on 12/11/2001 10:50:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Joseph Warren
Yeah and he probably came in illegally from Mexico by Greyhound bus to become one of us!
515 posted on 12/11/2001 10:52:19 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Fresno is not the only city, that is too PC to investigate potential terrorists in their backyard.

This is a little out of the jurisdiction of the City of Fresno. In fact, it's not even in Fresno County. It is in Tulare County.

The Fresno Sheriff's Department did investigate the murder of their officer, which did occur in Fresno County, but they would have no cause or jurisdiction to look into anything else. If anything is going on up there it is up to the FBI to keep on top of it, and they aren't going to be telling us what they are doing.

516 posted on 12/11/2001 10:54:20 PM PST by mlo
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And if they prove themselves in comat overseas, they will qualify to be sent back to the West as sleeper terrorists.
517 posted on 12/11/2001 10:56:09 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
I wonder if there might be more?
519 posted on 12/11/2001 11:01:54 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Joseph Warren
need to slip in the /sarcasm indentifer for us that are a bit slow to detect that sophisticated stuff!!

LOL!!

520 posted on 12/11/2001 11:03:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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