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'L.I.E.' Is Infomercial For North American Man-Boy Love Association
Toogood Reports ^ | November 7, 2001 | Louis P. Sheldon

Posted on 11/07/2001 4:14:46 AM PST by Starmaker

"L.I.E.," an NC-17 film released in theaters last week has been getting rave reviews from film critics and homosexuals. The film just won two awards at the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Film Festival (also known as the "Outfest"): The Grand Jury Award for OUTstanding American Narrative Feature and tied for the Grand Jury Award for OUTstanding Actor, giving the award to Paul Franklin Dano, the young boy who is pursued by a middle-aged child molester.

Michael Cuesta is the director of the film and wrote the screenplay with Stephen Ryder and his brother Gerald Cuesta. The film was produced by Lot 47 Films in association with Alter Ego/Belladonna. (Belladonna provides production services for European commercial, music video, and TV production companies. They have done work for AT&T and American Express, plus music videos for groups like N'Sync, and KRS-One.) Lot 47 Films co-owner Jeff Lipsky helped distribute "Lolita" when he was with the Samuel Goldwyn Company.

"L.I.E.," which stands for Long Island Expressway, tells a sympathetic story of Howie, a 15-year-old boy who is pursued by Big John Harrigan, a former Marine and child molester. Harrigan is played by British actor Brian Cox.

Film critic Rex Reed, writing in "The New York Observer," says, ".Resist all temptations to avoid this exceptional film because of its subject matter (pedophilia) and see 'L.I.E.' fast. Trust me on this. You will experience one of the most profoundly moving motion pictures this year."

"Guide" magazine, a mainstream homosexual publication has criticized the Motional Picture Association of America (MPAA) for giving this film an NC-17 rating. A "Guide" editorialist noted that "'L.I.E.' is being muzzled because it suggests that the relationship between an adult man and a teenage boy, a relationship first sparked by sexual interest but never consummated, need not be monstrous."

"Guide" continues: "That a boylover might have an interest in a boy that transcends sex, that he might act responsibly, that he might provide the love missing in an adolescent's life, that he might be something other than the predatory monster everywhere else depicted-these are the ideas that so offend the MPAA." ("Guide" magazine employs as its feature editor Bill Andriette, the former editor of the North American Man-Boy Love Association [NAMBLA] Bulletin.)

One of "L.I.E's" screenwriters is Stephen Ryder, who teaches writing at New York University. Ryder was recently asked in an Internet interview how he managed to make the child molester character so charming. He replied, "That was my plan [laughter]-My evil plan." Ryder then explains that he considers the relationship between Big John and Howie to be "consensual" and that men like Big John are "just regular ordinary non-felonious people."

Big John is the most likable character in the movie. He is both cultured and patriotic. Howie's father is a womanizer who ignores the boy. Howie's best friend is a sociopathic male prostitute and another friend is having an incestuous relationship with his sister. Howie and his friends spent their leisure time robbing houses and discussing sex acts. Big John comes along and "helps" Howie when his life falls apart.

"L.I.E." is an infomercial for NAMBLA, and homosexuals and "sophisticated" film critics are applauding it. This film will undoubtedly give encouragement to homosexual child molesters who will readily identify with Big John Harrigan as he pursues his sexual prey. By mainstreaming pedophilia through films like "Lolita" and "L.I.E." Lot 47 Films owners are helping to contribute to our culture's rising levels of child abuse and molestation.

The director, screenwriters, actors, and the production company all share the guilt for producing a film that portrays pedophilia in a sympathetic light. This effort is also being aided and abetted by homosexual film groups and by mainstream homosexual magazines that obviously favor the sexual seduction of boys.

Step-by-step, homosexual activists are softening up public opinion on the issue of adult/child sex, which is euphemistically referred to in their publications as "intergenerational intimacy." We are unaware of any mainstream homosexual group condemning this film. Will PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) condemn this? Will GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network) teachers and parents condemn it?

When will the homosexual/pedophile assault against children stop? It will only stop when the public becomes outraged enough to put an end to homosexual recruitment programs in our public schools and when our legislators have the courage to say "No!" to the homosexual agenda. When will this happen? That is up to you.


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To: dubyagee
"What exactly did they expect, PG?"

Exactly!

61 posted on 11/08/2001 5:06:33 AM PST by EdReform
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To: jlogajan
Heteros aren't the ones trying to legalize it.....
62 posted on 11/08/2001 5:11:39 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: EdReform
Yeah, I guess PG would be targeting their PREFERRED age range....
63 posted on 11/08/2001 5:12:40 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: Starmaker; GeekDejure; FormerLib; erizona; pollwatcher; Skooz; MHGinTN; gcraig; Ol' Sparky...
** "We are unaware of any mainstream homosexual group condemning this film." **


"Mainstream" (?) homosexual groups won't condemn anything homosexual. As two leaders of the homosexual community stated in "The Overhauling of Straight America":

"A media campaign to promote the Gay Victim image should make use of symbols which reduce the mainstream’s sense of threat, which lower its guard, and which enhance the plausibility of victimization. In practical terms, this means that jaunty mustachioed musclemen would keep a very low profile in gay commercials and other public presentation, while sympathetic figures of nice young people, old people, and attractive women would be featured. (It almost goes without saying that groups on the farthest margin of acceptability, such as NAMBLA, must play no part at all in such a campaign; suspected child-molesters will never look like victims)..."

Note that they say that NAMBLA is an acceptable group - if they won't come out and condemn something as sick and twisted as NAMBLA, they certainly aren't going to condemn movies with a homosexual theme.


** "Will PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) condemn this?" **

No - because PFLAG has been known to recommend very sexually explicit reading materials to minors:

An excerpt from "Recommended Reading for Teenagers? A Closer Look at P-FLAG":

This supposedly mainstream organization is not what appearances suggest.

"The well-known and respected national organization "Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays" (P-FLAG) serves as a support group for parents seeking guidance for their homosexual children. P-FLAG is recommended as a resource group by the U.S. Department of Education and U.S. Department of Justice in its upcoming manual, "Preventing Youth Hate Crime." Many schools, community agencies, and even nationally syndicated newspaper columnists refer families to it. P-FLAG has affiliates in all 50 states, with about 70,000 families among its membership.

A look at some of P-FLAG's literature and recommended books, however, reveals an approach to child guidance which is consistently both sexually and socially radical. First-person stories aimed at teens tell in pornographic detail of the delight of a young girl's sexual seduction by her lesbian teacher; of gay relationships between teenage boys and much older men; and of the precise how-to's of masturbation. Teenagers are specifically encouraged to use only their feelings as a guide to sexual behavior; to be their own judge of what is right and wrong; and to "have fun" experimenting. If a sexual behavior feels good, the logic says, it will tell them "who they are." Teenagers are encouraged to see religious traditionalists as mean-spirited and hypocritical, while at the same time, to see gay consciousness as "sacred." Were similar books recommended by parenting groups for "straight" teenagers, they would be considered violations of community standards of decency.

Some of the recommended books are relatively "tame" on the surface, justifying teenaged homosexual experimentation with the usual "This is me. This is who I am." Others go much further--glorifying sex with animals, witchcraft, feminist goddess worship, worship of sexual pleasure as a form of religion, promiscuity with hundreds of partners, bisexual orgies, and voyeurism.

Ironically, one of their booklets, "Beyond the Bible: Parents, Families and Friends Talk about Religion and Homosexuality," has a section entitled, "Caution: Hate Groups." Listed organizations include Promise Keepers, Focus on the Family, Concerned Women of America, and Family Research Council.

That pamphlet recommends that religious seekers read Gay Soul: Finding the Heart of Gay Spirit and Nature, a book which labels gay sex "sacred." In it, first-person stories are told of gay men delightedly flouting their vow of celibacy in seminaries; of a man reporting that he had a peak orgasmic experience during sex with God; and of sadomasochic torture being enjoyed by a psychotherapist as a mystical experience. Another writer in the anthology labeled as "sacred" the experience of incest between fathers and brothers. (Gay Soul was reviewed in the April 1997 Bulletin.)..."


** "Will GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network) teachers and parents condemn it?" **

GLSEN - the group that brought us FistGate?! I think the following references show that they would never condemn it:

See the following Massachusetts News Fistgate Archive articles:

An excerpt from Students Given Graphic Instruction In Homosexual Sex By Brian Camenker and Scott Whiteman, The Massachusetts News, May 2000:

..."Teenagers and children as young as 12 were encouraged to come from around the state, and many were bussed in from their home districts. Homosexual activists from across the country were also there...

Role playing and "carpet munching"

Then the children were asked to role-play. One student was to act the part of "a young lesbian who’s really enraptured with another woman, and it’s really coming down to the wire and you’re thinking about having sex." The other student played the "hip GSA (gay, straight alliance) lesbian advisor, who you feel you can talk to." The "counseling" included discussions of lesbian sex, oral-vaginal contact, or "carpet munching," as one student put it. The student asked whether it would smell like fish. At that point the session turned to another subject..."

Tired of denying it

Margot Abels opened by telling the room full of teachers (and two high school students), "We always feel like we are fighting against people who deny publicly, who say privately, that being queer is not at all about sex… We believe otherwise. We think that sex is central to every single one of us and particularly queer youth."

Fistgate II Teaches More Sexual Activity for Young ‘Homosexuals’ - Held in same building as last year, but this year included more students and sex kit By Ed Oliver, The Massachusetts News, March 26, 2001

'Parents' No Longer Recognized By Schools - Daycare Centers Are Closely Monitored, By Tom Duggan, The Massachusetts News

Listen to the Fistgate Tape Online

Visit and support the Parents' Rights Coalition. From Some of the Horror Stories from Massachusetts Schools:

"Needham, MA: Even with the Parents' Rights Law in place, parents were not notified when the "Gay/Straight Alliance' at Needham hosted an assembly for the entire student body.

At the assembly, a high school student described her first lesbian kiss, and extolled the "virtues" lesbianism.

Parents were not notified that this assembly was going on, students were not [informed that they were] allowed to refuse to attend, and following the assembly, each homeroom moderator was asked to continue the discussion when the students returned to homeroom.

Later, the Faculty Advisor to the Gay/Straight Alliance publicly stated that parents' desires to exempt their children from the assembly next year would not be honored, as the "assembly did not teach any moral or religious beliefs … By introducing students to the topic of homosexuality, we hope that they will be prepared to react appropriately [to the homosexuals they meet]" - Needham TAB, February 17, 2000, p.8)"


** "When will the homosexual/pedophile assault against children stop? It will only stop when the public becomes outraged enough to put an end to homosexual recruitment programs in our public schools and when our legislators have the courage to say "No!" to the homosexual agenda. When will this happen? That is up to you." **

The public will become outraged when it finally learns the truth. Some helpful references:

The Overhauling of Straight America

"A Change In Thinking" by Linda Bowles, TownHall.com, May 22, 2001

"THE GAY GENE: GOING, GOING … GONE" by Yvette C. Schneider, Family Research Council

Seven Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child

HOW TO PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN FROM PRO-HOMOSEXUALITY PROPAGANDA IN SCHOOLS

"Activism in the Schools"

64 posted on 11/08/2001 8:09:30 AM PST by EdReform
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To: exmarine
Ping
65 posted on 11/08/2001 11:25:22 AM PST by EdReform
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To: Ol' Sparky; George W. Bush
Ol' Sparky, you were the one who actually provided the evidence, so thanks to you for your effort!

The "evidence against homosexuality and the homosexual movement" is supplied by the homosexual community - in their own words.

As I stated in Reply # 92 in the message thread Author Admits Gay Propaganda in Kids' Book [Free Republic]:

We will bury them with their own words.

66 posted on 11/08/2001 11:54:31 AM PST by EdReform
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To: Starmaker
G-O-D W-I-L-L P-U-N-I-S-H T-H-E W-I-C-K-E-D!
67 posted on 11/08/2001 11:58:02 AM PST by exmarine
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To: EdReform
First-person stories aimed at teens tell in pornographic detail of ... the precise how-to's of masturbation.

They need instructions. Public schools are failing worse than I thought.

Good set of links though.
68 posted on 11/08/2001 2:51:29 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Khepera
Ping
69 posted on 11/09/2001 6:33:12 AM PST by EdReform
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70 posted on 11/09/2001 6:54:05 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
Thanks for the info!
71 posted on 11/10/2001 1:32:07 PM PST by EdReform
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To: jlogajan
While in absolute numbers heterosexuals (almost always male) commit more acts of pedophilia, the ratios point to a statistically greater proportion of pedophilia among homosexual males. The numbers show heterosexual males outnumber homosexual males by approximately thirty-six to one. Heterosexual child molestation cases outnumber homosexual cases by only eleven to one, implying that pedophilia is three times more common among homosexuals.

(From Dr. Jeffrey Satinover - "Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth' - 1996)

I'm well aware that we can debate statistics all day but the real point is: Why would you or anyone even attempt to defend pedophilia - hetro or homosexual? If it's vile when performed by hetros it's just as vile when performed by homos; but as dubyagee pointed out in post #62 hetrosexuals aren't trying to 'normalize' much less legalize it. Homosexuals are. This film is just another brick in the PR wall.

72 posted on 11/10/2001 2:07:57 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: theprogrammer
I would guess over 90% of homosexuals think that it is perfectly OK to seduce children.

I really think your guess is a gross overestimate. At least I hope it is.

Suffice to say that I think pedophiles should be castrated, and if female, and they do exist, they should undergo FGM to the max.

The fact that Hollywood promotes this sh*t just confirms my opinion of them.

Hollywood is evil and deserves whatever sense of vigilantiism it spawns. Like "moderate" Moslems denouncing the violence on 9-11, the silence will be deafening.

73 posted on 11/10/2001 2:11:46 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate
Bump
74 posted on 11/10/2001 2:40:35 PM PST by EdReform
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To: Starmaker
Without reading all of the replies I'll guess that I'm the only one here who saw the film. The film depicts this pedophile as a sick and reprehensible character who commits one solitary act of kindness.

At the end of the movie he is shot to death by his son, whom he has sexually abused.

This is no ad for NAMBLA. It presents the pedophile's life as not one anyone would want to be living.

You may all return to your frothing now.

75 posted on 11/11/2001 2:36:13 AM PST by sakic
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To: MHGinTN
And here's an even scarier aspect: my wife and stepdaughter consider the movie, American Beauty, a worthy piece of cinema ... I consider it an enema with perfume, meant to demean and denegrate normalcy

1. The movie was overrated garbage with a solid performance by Spacey. A similar but much better film was "The Ice Storm".

2. If you think what it was denegrating was normalcy then your definition of normalcy is different than mine. It put down a cheating wife, kids who like to demean other kids, and a horrific husband and father (the neighbor).

76 posted on 11/11/2001 2:42:25 AM PST by sakic
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To: GenXFreedomFighter
I wonder if you will call it Homophobia when God really turns his rath loose on this country like he did Soddom & Gommorah.You have some foolish people in this world that think that God succumbs to their slimy ways but it wont happen. I hate it but watch-it is later than America thinks.
77 posted on 11/11/2001 2:42:51 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: MHGinTN
Yet hollyweird is populated with Jews exploiting the denegration of American morals because there's huge money to be made in the sensationalism of deviancy!

Your agenda is coming more into focus now. It's the pedophiles and the Jews that must be stopped.

78 posted on 11/11/2001 2:44:59 AM PST by sakic
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To: CraigH
Did you all get this worked up over Lolita when it came out? ... I didn't think so.

That's different. She was hot:)

79 posted on 11/11/2001 2:46:34 AM PST by sakic
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To: theprogrammer
The move L.I.E. is part of an ongoing proselytization that represents a much larger danger.

Untrue but you didn't see the film. You just choose to believe the idiotic source that tells you what to hate and fear.

80 posted on 11/11/2001 2:48:55 AM PST by sakic
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