[Hank Rearden]

Amory Lovins is the most powerful gas on the planet. Really.

[truth_seeker]

Another prospect for fuels is located in Alberta, Colorado, Wyoming and Utah. Namely Oil Shale, and Tar Sands.

Canada is producing significant quantities right now. The US kicked off pilot plants after the Iran revolution; Jimmy Carter's energy program. It relies on old and new technology. Hitler ran his army on Synfuels, and Sasol in South Africa has major plants.

Along with Hydrogen, ANWR and Synfuels, the US COULD, if willing, give OPEC something to think about.

[exmoor]

Hillary is (Lovin' Hydrogen) Peroxcide. Linda Tripp taped this phone conversation between Hillary and Reno. I've found that 2.5% Salicylic Acid works best (takes time though) It works by clearing the top layers of skin and helps clear the blackheads. I had a really bad time with blackheads for a long time, but the Salicylic Acid works well, and also using 10% Hydrogen Peroxcide (sp?) helps clear up the breakouts. Using a very fine scrub, like a silica scrub, helps with blackheads also. It works well on my hair too.

[RLK]

This is nuts. I violates the laws of chemistry and thermodynamics as well as production costs.

[John Jamieson]

Pure wishfull thinking. I spent 20 years trying to stop hydrogen leaks on the Space Shuttle; not to mention the strange economics here.

[Junior]

The future is hydrogen: H, one proton, one electron. The first, lightest, and most common element in the universe.

IIRC, you need the type of hydrogen with the neutron in its nucleus to be a decent fuel source.

[Physicist]

Hydrogen, they say, has one huge, basic flaw: It's an energy storage medium, not an energy source. Like a battery, more energy must be expended in its production than can be provided by its use

This stone-cold fact first appeared awfully far down in the article. It should have been in the first paragraph; then we could have dispensed with many of the idiotic claims in the article, such as:

Hydrogen-as-fuel is a surprisingly old idea. In Jules Verne's novel The Mysterious Island, published in 1874, a shipwrecked engineer suggests that when fossil fuels run out, "water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable." Verne knew his physics: Pound for pound, hydrogen packs more chemical energy than any other known fuel.

How are you going to separate the hydrogen and oxygen in the first place? By burning fossil fuels.

[Gasshog]

I didnt read the whole article, this whole idea isnt good for my screenname, Im afraid

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[JoeSchem]

The price of solar cells keeps on rapidly going down. Solar cells are simply a type of integrated circuit, and we know how the cost of those have gone down. So eventually, the cost of solar cells will become economical enough to justify the production of hydrogen fuel.

If solar cell cost tracks Moore's Law, we may see an energy revolution in the next ten years that will be as significant as the oil revolution in the late nineteenth century.

[Cyber Liberty]

Darn. I was hoping THIS was the use of hydrogen this article was about:

[Gunner9mm]

"The first, lightest, and most common element in the universe."

Right up there with stupidity, according to Mark Twain (I think).

[Fixit]

Link to another thread on a very similar topic.

The Coming Hydrogen Economy